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  3. Given the recent payment controversy, I have an interesting question. Why are people so interested in porn and NSFW stuff?

Given the recent payment controversy, I have an interesting question. Why are people so interested in porn and NSFW stuff?

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    I don't understand how anyone past puberty can't understand it. Can't really speak for women but stuff that gives me a boner is great. Its like food that cause you salivate. You want to eat that food and you want to fuck that person. The main difference is if your from a modern country that does well then you have access to almost any kind of food you might want. I could totally see if in a situation where you have limited food options having pictures of a really decked out burger or burrito as big as your head or stuffed pizza or cheesy beef or hotdog dragged through the garden. Sorry I could go on but I uh. Really need to do something so gotta run.

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    I don't understand how anyone past puberty can't understand it

    Some people are ace? Not that I'm against people having the right to make NSFW stuff (the idea of "NSFW" is pretty heavily influenced by advertisers to begin with, outside of NSFL stuff like gore and trauma) but this analogy makes it seem like you can't live without having or imagining sex at all times. I personally don't get enjoyment out of being horny at all.

    The real problem is that payment processors shouldn't be able to block transactions for things that aren't illegal, full stop. The recent precedents just let Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal label anything with themes they don't like (LGBTQ+, gender equality, body dysmorphia and other issues related to physical appearance, etc.) as suggestive content and censor it. That shouldn't be legal anywhere claiming to have freedom of speech/expression (but they don't seem to mind supporting hate speech!)

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    • zangoose@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

      I don't understand how anyone past puberty can't understand it

      Some people are ace? Not that I'm against people having the right to make NSFW stuff (the idea of "NSFW" is pretty heavily influenced by advertisers to begin with, outside of NSFL stuff like gore and trauma) but this analogy makes it seem like you can't live without having or imagining sex at all times. I personally don't get enjoyment out of being horny at all.

      The real problem is that payment processors shouldn't be able to block transactions for things that aren't illegal, full stop. The recent precedents just let Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal label anything with themes they don't like (LGBTQ+, gender equality, body dysmorphia and other issues related to physical appearance, etc.) as suggestive content and censor it. That shouldn't be legal anywhere claiming to have freedom of speech/expression (but they don't seem to mind supporting hate speech!)

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      I don't see why you feel that way. Do you imagine eating all the time. You think of food when your hungry and you think of sex when your horny and either one can be elicited by your senses.

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      • H [email protected]

        I don't see why you feel that way. Do you imagine eating all the time. You think of food when your hungry and you think of sex when your horny and either one can be elicited by your senses.

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        I generally don't think about sex unless it's relevant to a discussion so the analogy kind of breaks down for me. But when you liken something to food, the immediate thought coming to my mind is that you can't live without it.

        I guess if you really wanted to stick with the food metaphor from my perspective it would be more like: "If all food tasted bland to you and you didn't have to care about the nutrients/hunger would you still eat?" Taking the analogy past its breaking point, my experience is like that question but if the world fundamentally judges you based on your favorite food and inserts generic barely related food pictures into every show or movie you try to watch.

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          I want to know what draws people to it and why keep consuming and making it? Especially since Pictures and videos aren't showing anything new except the people in it.

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          Cuz freedom

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            I want to know what draws people to it and why keep consuming and making it? Especially since Pictures and videos aren't showing anything new except the people in it.

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            Above all, it is about the individual freedom.

            Go back in history and you'll see a pattern of regressive politics paired with heavy censorship, starting with anything sex or sexuality related and, by extension, anything potentially disturbing.

            It is always sparked by a "well intentioned" desire to protect:the public from harmful creation which then pushes further and further into thought control. There have been attempts to ban and criminalize cursing.

            Imagine being arrested for shouting an expletive out of hurting yourself or frustration.

            I don't consume porn. I think it is so banalized it has become uninteresting. But to have people persecuted because they want to make it is not something I want to see. And this feeling goes further when we enter the realm of personal affirmation, linked with LGBTQ+ issues and other individuals fighting for their rights.

            And this is highly debateable but artistic creation must no be censored. The best censorship for artists and their work is indifference. It's the best way to state that something is irrelevant.

            Meanwhile, with all the persecution towards mature content (try replacing NSFW and porn with that expression), we get violence nearly glorified in almost all media and so called reality tv and other highly exploitative entertainment is normalized.

            Leave the mature content creators be.

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              I want to know what draws people to it and why keep consuming and making it? Especially since Pictures and videos aren't showing anything new except the people in it.

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              Your second sentence suggests that pictures and video cannot possibly have any artistic value, and I think common sense suggests that you're wrong, even when the people are naked and doing various things.

              As for your general question, I think the people who are trying to censor us have the burden of explaining why they deserve that power. There are certain areas where censorship is definitely a good thing, but very often we find people trying to take control of societal communication for selfish reasons, generally money or power, and those people can go fuck themselves.

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              • zangoose@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                I don't understand how anyone past puberty can't understand it

                Some people are ace? Not that I'm against people having the right to make NSFW stuff (the idea of "NSFW" is pretty heavily influenced by advertisers to begin with, outside of NSFL stuff like gore and trauma) but this analogy makes it seem like you can't live without having or imagining sex at all times. I personally don't get enjoyment out of being horny at all.

                The real problem is that payment processors shouldn't be able to block transactions for things that aren't illegal, full stop. The recent precedents just let Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal label anything with themes they don't like (LGBTQ+, gender equality, body dysmorphia and other issues related to physical appearance, etc.) as suggestive content and censor it. That shouldn't be legal anywhere claiming to have freedom of speech/expression (but they don't seem to mind supporting hate speech!)

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                Even ace people get horny and enjoy porn. The biological function isn't gone. There's just lack of attraction.

                This said as an ace person.

                Am I attracted to the sexual characteristics or appearance of another? No not really

                Do I get horny and have the urge to reproduce? Yes. I'm a functional adult mammal with a brain.

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                • burgerbaron@piefed.socialB [email protected]

                  I have Aphantasia lol, it's lame fapping in the void to my own inner monologue! Maidenless rn too. Gotta shake things up.

                  I'm more about written works when I'm on my own however, visual aids or not. Usually not, because the quality of VN/WEG is piss poor with a few exceptions. Books are way better.

                  As to why, it's because I'm a human animal and it's a need. You can tell because once satisfied you lose all interest in whatever it was for awhile.

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                  Aphantasia gang!

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                    Even ace people get horny and enjoy porn. The biological function isn't gone. There's just lack of attraction.

                    This said as an ace person.

                    Am I attracted to the sexual characteristics or appearance of another? No not really

                    Do I get horny and have the urge to reproduce? Yes. I'm a functional adult mammal with a brain.

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                    That's fine? I'm not trying to gatekeep being ace at all nor speak for all ace people. That just doesn't match my experience and I doubt I'm completely 100% alone in saying that.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      I want to know what draws people to it and why keep consuming and making it? Especially since Pictures and videos aren't showing anything new except the people in it.

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                      People learn by watching or observing. Its a basic part of the scientific process. You want to see people having sex because it arouses you so you can relieve your own personal sexual tensions. Thanks to these fantastic physical motion actors, you can learn new ways of sexual pleasure that you had not thought about before. Maybe when we're all gone, aliens will finally figure out why all pizza has a hole at the center. They will find Fred Thompson's laptop under the rubble created by a thousand earthquakes after eons of human inexistence and the hole in the pizza will be explained away.

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