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      because you also make money for yourself

      which allows you to buy things

      and not live off the state

      you are also (given the motivation) also capable of working your way up the chain and making more money for yourself which allows you to put it towards not working at all and still not living off the state

      "Spend less than you earn—invest the surplus—avoid debt. Do simply this and you'll wind up rich."[7]

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_movement

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        This isn't a fucking meme. It's a great quote, but doesn't belong here.

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          because you also make money for yourself

          which allows you to buy things

          and not live off the state

          you are also (given the motivation) also capable of working your way up the chain and making more money for yourself which allows you to put it towards not working at all and still not living off the state

          "Spend less than you earn—invest the surplus—avoid debt. Do simply this and you'll wind up rich."[7]

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_movement

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          Complete misunderstanding and delusion of how capitalism functions

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            we live in a culture where the value of your life is measured by how much money you have

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              Complete misunderstanding and delusion of how capitalism functions

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              Care to elaborate on your understanding and reality of how capitalism functions?

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                I have never been more motivated by the complete absence of a social safety-net, than each day I have spent unemployed.

                As Americans, perhaps we behave this way largely to do normalization and indoctrination. And maybe some are tacitly aware of the fragility of this arrangement. But for those of us that have stared into the financial and classist chasm that sits beneath us all, it vastly exceeds any unease you might feel from not keeping up with your peers.

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                  "I am outraged by the society not supporting my lifestyle of doing nothing but scrolling TikTok all day."

                  Truly, Nazism in its purest form. We must rebel against such oppression.

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                    Care to elaborate on your understanding and reality of how capitalism functions?

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                    The whole point of capitalism is voluntary monarchy. Where peasants have to waste their time doing random things to extract productivity from other peasants for the benefit of the select few. And when things go bad for the business, guess who is not getting made redundant?

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                      The whole point of capitalism is voluntary monarchy. Where peasants have to waste their time doing random things to extract productivity from other peasants for the benefit of the select few. And when things go bad for the business, guess who is not getting made redundant?

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                      who doesn’t get made redundant?

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                        by an alarm clock,

                        Sounds like a personal choice. Im up before 630 every day without an alarm clock. Try going to bed earlier?

                        leap out of bed,

                        Or just, get out of bed. Like every person on the planet.

                        dress,

                        Would you rather be nude?

                        force-feed,

                        You mean eat? Somebody forcing you? Youre bitching about breakfast?

                        shit, piss, brush teeth and hair,

                        If pooping/peeing are upsetting to you, you have bigger issues.

                        and fight traffic to get to a place where

                        Why fight the traffic? You are the traffic. Fighting it is a personal choice.

                        essentially you made lots of money for somebody else

                        Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

                        and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?

                        Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

                        Dude needs therapy

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                          I have never been more motivated by the complete absence of a social safety-net, than each day I have spent unemployed.

                          As Americans, perhaps we behave this way largely to do normalization and indoctrination. And maybe some are tacitly aware of the fragility of this arrangement. But for those of us that have stared into the financial and classist chasm that sits beneath us all, it vastly exceeds any unease you might feel from not keeping up with your peers.

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                          My state has stripped unemployment down to 12 weeks, after that went by after my layoff at Christmas, I got so desperate and depressed and a little bit crazy. As the day is ticked closer to my first missed mortgage payment and car payment, And the thought of homelessness for me and my animals became a sobering reality, I started taking every interview I could possibly find, no preparation, just winging it until something worked.

                          During that whole process, I saw what the endgame is, we are slaves, but there is no slave master anymore, we do that part ourselves to avoid dying on the street.

                          So I am very motivated to start my own niche company and get the fuck away from this whole system at this point. Especially since I will have to work until I die, 401ks have all been cashed out during crises.

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                            "I am outraged by the society not supporting my lifestyle of doing nothing but scrolling TikTok all day."

                            Truly, Nazism in its purest form. We must rebel against such oppression.

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                            Nazism is when you... surf TikTok?

                            This is why Democrats lost the last election. Liberals are absolutely brain poisoned.

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                              Nazism is when you... surf TikTok?

                              This is why Democrats lost the last election. Liberals are absolutely brain poisoned.

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                              Liberals are the worst people to ever walk this earth. Not only they have complete contempt for tradition but also they cannot see anything outside their own egos

                              I even prefer god damn marxists Leninists to the liberals because even though they are grossly incompetent and wrong at least are brave enough to acknowledge the reality. Liberals are just huge pussies

                              And have you seen how smug they are? God, what a bunch of elitist fetishists.

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                                by an alarm clock,

                                Sounds like a personal choice. Im up before 630 every day without an alarm clock. Try going to bed earlier?

                                leap out of bed,

                                Or just, get out of bed. Like every person on the planet.

                                dress,

                                Would you rather be nude?

                                force-feed,

                                You mean eat? Somebody forcing you? Youre bitching about breakfast?

                                shit, piss, brush teeth and hair,

                                If pooping/peeing are upsetting to you, you have bigger issues.

                                and fight traffic to get to a place where

                                Why fight the traffic? You are the traffic. Fighting it is a personal choice.

                                essentially you made lots of money for somebody else

                                Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

                                and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?

                                Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

                                Dude needs therapy

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                                Y'all are missing the forrest for the trees

                                God forbid someone add a bit of literary sugar to their argument, else they be picked apart by pedants.

                                Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

                                Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

                                Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

                                The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

                                Dude needs therapy

                                Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

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                                  6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.

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                                    Y'all are missing the forrest for the trees

                                    God forbid someone add a bit of literary sugar to their argument, else they be picked apart by pedants.

                                    Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

                                    Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

                                    Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

                                    The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

                                    Dude needs therapy

                                    Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

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                                    Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

                                    He doesn't mention how much he is being paid. His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

                                    The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

                                    I didn't say he should be grateful, or how he should feel. I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?

                                    Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

                                    You think that's the problem here? He couldn't afford some help for whatever is going on with him? Or (since you charged me with being part of the problem), could his problems be exacerbated by folks like you, commiserating, raging against the machine of such horrors as waking up, eating breakfast, having a job.

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                                      who doesn’t get made redundant?

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                                      People making company driving decisions, aka CEOs

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                                        6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.

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                                        Starting work at 6am? Luxury! In my day we started our day's work the day before, and didn't finish until two days after!

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                                          Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.

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