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  • timboslice@discuss.onlineT [email protected]
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    6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.

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      Y'all are missing the forrest for the trees

      God forbid someone add a bit of literary sugar to their argument, else they be picked apart by pedants.

      Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

      Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

      Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

      The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

      Dude needs therapy

      Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

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      Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

      He doesn't mention how much he is being paid. His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

      The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

      I didn't say he should be grateful, or how he should feel. I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?

      Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

      You think that's the problem here? He couldn't afford some help for whatever is going on with him? Or (since you charged me with being part of the problem), could his problems be exacerbated by folks like you, commiserating, raging against the machine of such horrors as waking up, eating breakfast, having a job.

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        who doesn’t get made redundant?

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        People making company driving decisions, aka CEOs

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          6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.

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          Starting work at 6am? Luxury! In my day we started our day's work the day before, and didn't finish until two days after!

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            Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.

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              This isn't a fucking meme. It's a great quote, but doesn't belong here.

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              Language changes. "Meme" used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it's any composition of images and/or words posted online.

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                Language changes. "Meme" used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it's any composition of images and/or words posted online.

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                Yeah, maybe. It certainly is a tragedy. I miss it when memes were just dumb shit which a person with an inane, absurdist sense of humor could appreciate. Politics are everywhere now.

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                  Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.

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                  Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.

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                    Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

                    He doesn't mention how much he is being paid. His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

                    The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

                    I didn't say he should be grateful, or how he should feel. I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?

                    Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

                    You think that's the problem here? He couldn't afford some help for whatever is going on with him? Or (since you charged me with being part of the problem), could his problems be exacerbated by folks like you, commiserating, raging against the machine of such horrors as waking up, eating breakfast, having a job.

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                    You're reply is disingenuous in the extreme, because nobody is this subtext illeteriate.

                    His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

                    He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                    I didn't say he should be grateful

                    You absolutely said he should be grateful for his job, you just didn't use those words. You mocked him for complaining about his job. Those two things are a distinction without meaning difference.
                    This messaging is all over the media. If you're trying to say it isn't then you're either lying or you're tragically media illeteriate.

                    You think that's the problem here

                    You're the one complaining about his mental health.
                    But no you're right, it's people like me online in 2025 who affected the mental health of the author of the [checks notes] 1975 book, causing him to use [gasp in horror] a literary flourish. Great job there, detective, you cracked the case!
                    Thank god you didn't embarrass yourself at all!

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                      Starting work at 6am? Luxury! In my day we started our day's work the day before, and didn't finish until two days after!

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                      Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can't wake up as late as 6:30 am. It's a privilege.

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                        People making company driving decisions, aka CEOs

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                        ceos lose their jobs all the time

                        This year has seen significant changes in CEO turnover. In the first quarter alone of 2024, outplacement and career transitioning firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that 622 chief executives announced their resignations. This represents a 50% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023, which was already a record year for CEO exits.

                        The surge in departures seen earlier this year can be attributed to the evolving business landscape, retirement of Baby Boomers and increased pressure on CEOs to navigate complex issues, including inflation, supply chain disruptions, and environmental, social and governance concerns.

                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/08/19/ceos-facing-job-insecurity-like-workers/

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                          Liberals are the worst people to ever walk this earth. Not only they have complete contempt for tradition but also they cannot see anything outside their own egos

                          I even prefer god damn marxists Leninists to the liberals because even though they are grossly incompetent and wrong at least are brave enough to acknowledge the reality. Liberals are just huge pussies

                          And have you seen how smug they are? God, what a bunch of elitist fetishists.

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                          they have complete contempt for tradition

                          Lolz. Lmao even.

                          The only thing Dems seem capable of fighting to protect is the filibuster.

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                            You're reply is disingenuous in the extreme, because nobody is this subtext illeteriate.

                            His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

                            He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                            I didn't say he should be grateful

                            You absolutely said he should be grateful for his job, you just didn't use those words. You mocked him for complaining about his job. Those two things are a distinction without meaning difference.
                            This messaging is all over the media. If you're trying to say it isn't then you're either lying or you're tragically media illeteriate.

                            You think that's the problem here

                            You're the one complaining about his mental health.
                            But no you're right, it's people like me online in 2025 who affected the mental health of the author of the [checks notes] 1975 book, causing him to use [gasp in horror] a literary flourish. Great job there, detective, you cracked the case!
                            Thank god you didn't embarrass yourself at all!

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                            He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                            I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?

                            I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!

                            The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?

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                              Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.

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                                ceos lose their jobs all the time

                                This year has seen significant changes in CEO turnover. In the first quarter alone of 2024, outplacement and career transitioning firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that 622 chief executives announced their resignations. This represents a 50% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023, which was already a record year for CEO exits.

                                The surge in departures seen earlier this year can be attributed to the evolving business landscape, retirement of Baby Boomers and increased pressure on CEOs to navigate complex issues, including inflation, supply chain disruptions, and environmental, social and governance concerns.

                                https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/08/19/ceos-facing-job-insecurity-like-workers/

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                                Drop in the ocean, Microsoft alone is letting go of 6,000 people https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-layoffs-d1f2de54ebad6f099deac8fbd3375835

                                CEOs packages mean they don't need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage. What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work. Wake up and see the numbers.

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                                  Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.

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                                  More than one thing can be bad.

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                                    More than one thing can be bad.

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                                    yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.

                                    Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.

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                                      He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                                      I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?

                                      I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!

                                      The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?

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                                      You're right, you don't understand, and you're embarrassing yourself

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                                        We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.

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                                          yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.

                                          Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.

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                                          Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won't some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.

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