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    Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.

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      This isn't a fucking meme. It's a great quote, but doesn't belong here.

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      Language changes. "Meme" used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it's any composition of images and/or words posted online.

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        Language changes. "Meme" used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it's any composition of images and/or words posted online.

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        Yeah, maybe. It certainly is a tragedy. I miss it when memes were just dumb shit which a person with an inane, absurdist sense of humor could appreciate. Politics are everywhere now.

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          Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.

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          Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.

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            Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company

            He doesn't mention how much he is being paid. His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

            The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one

            I didn't say he should be grateful, or how he should feel. I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?

            Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society

            You think that's the problem here? He couldn't afford some help for whatever is going on with him? Or (since you charged me with being part of the problem), could his problems be exacerbated by folks like you, commiserating, raging against the machine of such horrors as waking up, eating breakfast, having a job.

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            You're reply is disingenuous in the extreme, because nobody is this subtext illeteriate.

            His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

            He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

            I didn't say he should be grateful

            You absolutely said he should be grateful for his job, you just didn't use those words. You mocked him for complaining about his job. Those two things are a distinction without meaning difference.
            This messaging is all over the media. If you're trying to say it isn't then you're either lying or you're tragically media illeteriate.

            You think that's the problem here

            You're the one complaining about his mental health.
            But no you're right, it's people like me online in 2025 who affected the mental health of the author of the [checks notes] 1975 book, causing him to use [gasp in horror] a literary flourish. Great job there, detective, you cracked the case!
            Thank god you didn't embarrass yourself at all!

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              Starting work at 6am? Luxury! In my day we started our day's work the day before, and didn't finish until two days after!

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              Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can't wake up as late as 6:30 am. It's a privilege.

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                People making company driving decisions, aka CEOs

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                ceos lose their jobs all the time

                This year has seen significant changes in CEO turnover. In the first quarter alone of 2024, outplacement and career transitioning firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that 622 chief executives announced their resignations. This represents a 50% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023, which was already a record year for CEO exits.

                The surge in departures seen earlier this year can be attributed to the evolving business landscape, retirement of Baby Boomers and increased pressure on CEOs to navigate complex issues, including inflation, supply chain disruptions, and environmental, social and governance concerns.

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/08/19/ceos-facing-job-insecurity-like-workers/

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                  Liberals are the worst people to ever walk this earth. Not only they have complete contempt for tradition but also they cannot see anything outside their own egos

                  I even prefer god damn marxists Leninists to the liberals because even though they are grossly incompetent and wrong at least are brave enough to acknowledge the reality. Liberals are just huge pussies

                  And have you seen how smug they are? God, what a bunch of elitist fetishists.

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                  they have complete contempt for tradition

                  Lolz. Lmao even.

                  The only thing Dems seem capable of fighting to protect is the filibuster.

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                    You're reply is disingenuous in the extreme, because nobody is this subtext illeteriate.

                    His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.

                    He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                    I didn't say he should be grateful

                    You absolutely said he should be grateful for his job, you just didn't use those words. You mocked him for complaining about his job. Those two things are a distinction without meaning difference.
                    This messaging is all over the media. If you're trying to say it isn't then you're either lying or you're tragically media illeteriate.

                    You think that's the problem here

                    You're the one complaining about his mental health.
                    But no you're right, it's people like me online in 2025 who affected the mental health of the author of the [checks notes] 1975 book, causing him to use [gasp in horror] a literary flourish. Great job there, detective, you cracked the case!
                    Thank god you didn't embarrass yourself at all!

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                    He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                    I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?

                    I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!

                    The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?

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                      Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.

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                        ceos lose their jobs all the time

                        This year has seen significant changes in CEO turnover. In the first quarter alone of 2024, outplacement and career transitioning firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that 622 chief executives announced their resignations. This represents a 50% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023, which was already a record year for CEO exits.

                        The surge in departures seen earlier this year can be attributed to the evolving business landscape, retirement of Baby Boomers and increased pressure on CEOs to navigate complex issues, including inflation, supply chain disruptions, and environmental, social and governance concerns.

                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/08/19/ceos-facing-job-insecurity-like-workers/

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                        Drop in the ocean, Microsoft alone is letting go of 6,000 people https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-layoffs-d1f2de54ebad6f099deac8fbd3375835

                        CEOs packages mean they don't need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage. What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work. Wake up and see the numbers.

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                          Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.

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                          More than one thing can be bad.

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                            More than one thing can be bad.

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                            yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.

                            Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.

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                              He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

                              I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?

                              I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!

                              The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?

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                              You're right, you don't understand, and you're embarrassing yourself

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                                We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.

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                                  yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.

                                  Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.

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                                  Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won't some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.

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                                    Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won't some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.

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                                    I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.

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                                      Rise and grind, baby.

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                                        Drop in the ocean, Microsoft alone is letting go of 6,000 people https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-layoffs-d1f2de54ebad6f099deac8fbd3375835

                                        CEOs packages mean they don't need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage. What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work. Wake up and see the numbers.

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                                        You said CEO's don't lose their jobs, if you paid attention to business news you'd know they lose them all the time

                                        Also OBVIOUSLY it's a drop in the ocean, there are simply less CEO's than regular workers, that's also why they are higher paid, because there is more demand for their skills

                                        CEOs packages mean they don’t need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage

                                        You're thinking specifically of high paid CEO's yeah? Obviously not thinking of small to medium businesses

                                        According to the latest statistics on the percentage of businesses that fail in the United States, we see that of the 733,721 new businesses that were started in 2018, more than one-fifth (20.6%) closed in 2019, after just one year in operation.

                                        The percentage of businesses that fail increased to 31.3% in the second year (2020) and 37.9% in the third year (2021). In other words, fewer than two-thirds of the businesses that started in 2018 remained in operation three years on.

                                        In their fourth year (2022), 42.7% had shuttered and by the fifth year in 2023, the new business failure rate reached 48%. These numbers show that only around half of the businesses that started in 2028, or 381,337 of them, to be exact, were still surviving half a decade on.

                                        It's a brutal business the business business

                                        What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work.

                                        So same as any other CEO, except usually even less if the business goes bust under your leadership

                                        Wake up and see the numbers.

                                        If being a CEO is so fuckin incredible it sounds like you should stop bitching and start attending a few management courses eh?

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                                          by an alarm clock,

                                          Sounds like a personal choice. Im up before 630 every day without an alarm clock. Try going to bed earlier?

                                          leap out of bed,

                                          Or just, get out of bed. Like every person on the planet.

                                          dress,

                                          Would you rather be nude?

                                          force-feed,

                                          You mean eat? Somebody forcing you? Youre bitching about breakfast?

                                          shit, piss, brush teeth and hair,

                                          If pooping/peeing are upsetting to you, you have bigger issues.

                                          and fight traffic to get to a place where

                                          Why fight the traffic? You are the traffic. Fighting it is a personal choice.

                                          essentially you made lots of money for somebody else

                                          Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

                                          and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?

                                          Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

                                          Dude needs therapy

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                                          Your wiki lists being denser than a black hole as your superpower.

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