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  • L [email protected]

    More than one thing can be bad.

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    yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.

    Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.

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      He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.

      I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?

      I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!

      The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?

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      You're right, you don't understand, and you're embarrassing yourself

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        We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.

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        • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

          yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.

          Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.

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          Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won't some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.

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            Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won't some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.

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            I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.

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              Rise and grind, baby.

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              • O [email protected]

                Drop in the ocean, Microsoft alone is letting go of 6,000 people https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-layoffs-d1f2de54ebad6f099deac8fbd3375835

                CEOs packages mean they don't need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage. What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work. Wake up and see the numbers.

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                You said CEO's don't lose their jobs, if you paid attention to business news you'd know they lose them all the time

                Also OBVIOUSLY it's a drop in the ocean, there are simply less CEO's than regular workers, that's also why they are higher paid, because there is more demand for their skills

                CEOs packages mean they don’t need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage

                You're thinking specifically of high paid CEO's yeah? Obviously not thinking of small to medium businesses

                According to the latest statistics on the percentage of businesses that fail in the United States, we see that of the 733,721 new businesses that were started in 2018, more than one-fifth (20.6%) closed in 2019, after just one year in operation.

                The percentage of businesses that fail increased to 31.3% in the second year (2020) and 37.9% in the third year (2021). In other words, fewer than two-thirds of the businesses that started in 2018 remained in operation three years on.

                In their fourth year (2022), 42.7% had shuttered and by the fifth year in 2023, the new business failure rate reached 48%. These numbers show that only around half of the businesses that started in 2028, or 381,337 of them, to be exact, were still surviving half a decade on.

                It's a brutal business the business business

                What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work.

                So same as any other CEO, except usually even less if the business goes bust under your leadership

                Wake up and see the numbers.

                If being a CEO is so fuckin incredible it sounds like you should stop bitching and start attending a few management courses eh?

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                  by an alarm clock,

                  Sounds like a personal choice. Im up before 630 every day without an alarm clock. Try going to bed earlier?

                  leap out of bed,

                  Or just, get out of bed. Like every person on the planet.

                  dress,

                  Would you rather be nude?

                  force-feed,

                  You mean eat? Somebody forcing you? Youre bitching about breakfast?

                  shit, piss, brush teeth and hair,

                  If pooping/peeing are upsetting to you, you have bigger issues.

                  and fight traffic to get to a place where

                  Why fight the traffic? You are the traffic. Fighting it is a personal choice.

                  essentially you made lots of money for somebody else

                  Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?

                  and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?

                  Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?

                  Dude needs therapy

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                  Your wiki lists being denser than a black hole as your superpower.

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                    You're right, you don't understand, and you're embarrassing yourself

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                    Cool thanks for contributing to the convo.

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                    • eyekaytee@aussie.zoneE [email protected]

                      You said CEO's don't lose their jobs, if you paid attention to business news you'd know they lose them all the time

                      Also OBVIOUSLY it's a drop in the ocean, there are simply less CEO's than regular workers, that's also why they are higher paid, because there is more demand for their skills

                      CEOs packages mean they don’t need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage

                      You're thinking specifically of high paid CEO's yeah? Obviously not thinking of small to medium businesses

                      According to the latest statistics on the percentage of businesses that fail in the United States, we see that of the 733,721 new businesses that were started in 2018, more than one-fifth (20.6%) closed in 2019, after just one year in operation.

                      The percentage of businesses that fail increased to 31.3% in the second year (2020) and 37.9% in the third year (2021). In other words, fewer than two-thirds of the businesses that started in 2018 remained in operation three years on.

                      In their fourth year (2022), 42.7% had shuttered and by the fifth year in 2023, the new business failure rate reached 48%. These numbers show that only around half of the businesses that started in 2028, or 381,337 of them, to be exact, were still surviving half a decade on.

                      It's a brutal business the business business

                      What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work.

                      So same as any other CEO, except usually even less if the business goes bust under your leadership

                      Wake up and see the numbers.

                      If being a CEO is so fuckin incredible it sounds like you should stop bitching and start attending a few management courses eh?

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                      You are missing the point, capitalism promotes redistribution of wealth only one way. And newsflash, its not the way towards those who actually perform useful function instead of fucking about golf courses and dinners. If the wold looses all CEOs, we won't notice, if the world looses refuse collectors, you end up with Birmingham https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdjg07xvnnjo

                      It’s a brutal business the business business

                      Perhaps then its time to move away from this moronic system towards something that actually cares about people?

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                      • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

                        Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.

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                        You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
                        People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can't wake up as late as 6:30 am. It's a privilege.

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                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE

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                            You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
                            People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.

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                            fine? quite true.

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                              You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
                              People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.

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                              Companies and landlords don't have to exist though

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                              • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

                                I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.

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                                Only problem is I'm running out of popcorn 😞

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                                  We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.

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                                  That's quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.

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                                    Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.

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                                    Those people:

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                                      Cool thanks for contributing to the convo.

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                                      More than you contributed, taking rhetorical flourish as literal in bad faith 🤷

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                                        That's quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.

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                                        It's slavery with gaming qualities and objectives, like kids at a summer camp. Maybe if I get a few more tokens, I can buy a tshirt.

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                                          Hey Bukowski said great stuff when he wasn't kicking his underage girlfriend on camera.

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