The American Dream
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You're right, you don't understand, and you're embarrassing yourself
Cool thanks for contributing to the convo.
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You said CEO's don't lose their jobs, if you paid attention to business news you'd know they lose them all the time
Also OBVIOUSLY it's a drop in the ocean, there are simply less CEO's than regular workers, that's also why they are higher paid, because there is more demand for their skills
CEOs packages mean they don’t need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage
You're thinking specifically of high paid CEO's yeah? Obviously not thinking of small to medium businesses
According to the latest statistics on the percentage of businesses that fail in the United States, we see that of the 733,721 new businesses that were started in 2018, more than one-fifth (20.6%) closed in 2019, after just one year in operation.
The percentage of businesses that fail increased to 31.3% in the second year (2020) and 37.9% in the third year (2021). In other words, fewer than two-thirds of the businesses that started in 2018 remained in operation three years on.
In their fourth year (2022), 42.7% had shuttered and by the fifth year in 2023, the new business failure rate reached 48%. These numbers show that only around half of the businesses that started in 2028, or 381,337 of them, to be exact, were still surviving half a decade on.
It's a brutal business the business business
What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work.
So same as any other CEO, except usually even less if the business goes bust under your leadership
Wake up and see the numbers.
If being a CEO is so fuckin incredible it sounds like you should stop bitching and start attending a few management courses eh?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You are missing the point, capitalism promotes redistribution of wealth only one way. And newsflash, its not the way towards those who actually perform useful function instead of fucking about golf courses and dinners. If the wold looses all CEOs, we won't notice, if the world looses refuse collectors, you end up with Birmingham https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdjg07xvnnjo
It’s a brutal business the business business
Perhaps then its time to move away from this moronic system towards something that actually cares about people?
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Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.
You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us. -
Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can't wake up as late as 6:30 am. It's a privilege.
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You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.fine? quite true.
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You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.Companies and landlords don't have to exist though
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I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.
Only problem is I'm running out of popcorn
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We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.
That's quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.
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Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.
Those people:
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Cool thanks for contributing to the convo.
More than you contributed, taking rhetorical flourish as literal in bad faith
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That's quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's slavery with gaming qualities and objectives, like kids at a summer camp. Maybe if I get a few more tokens, I can buy a tshirt.
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Hey Bukowski said great stuff when he wasn't kicking his underage girlfriend on camera.
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That's quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.
That exact response prevents us from properly evaluating our situation.
Wage slavery is slavery
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Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.
Right up until the point it happens to them.
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*To buy goods mass produced by a person working in far worse conditions.
This then feeds into the CPI, which now requires higher priced goods via inflation targeting, and suddenly housing is unaffordable and theres a reverse baby boom.
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we live in a culture where the value of your life is measured by how much money you have
Ain't that the truth.
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Where's the money, Bukowski?
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That exact response prevents us from properly evaluating our situation.
Wage slavery is slavery
yes, not every slavery, even historically, has been chattel slavery
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Yeah, maybe. It certainly is a tragedy. I miss it when memes were just dumb shit which a person with an inane, absurdist sense of humor could appreciate. Politics are everywhere now.
poltiical memes are the original memes lol
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Companies and landlords don't have to exist though
Even if we completely ignore the overhead involved in buying and selling property, moving is expensive, stressful and completely upends your life. Expecting new parents to move every time they need more room, or even worse, forcing grieving parents to move because no longer "need" the space is ridiculous. If we aren't complete monsters about people only having exactly the amount of space that they need at any given moment means that there will have to be a number of people with surplus space at any given moment. And at any given moment there will also be a number of people who need a place to stay, but may not plan on staying in that one place long enough to make it worth "buying" somewhere to live. So, I don't see how you can stop people from letting others who need a place to live from living with them. So landlords have always existed and always will.
On the same note there's no way to stop 2 people with similar goals from helping each other, so companies will also exist whether you want them to or not.
