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No more tech hiring in India, Donald Trump tells Google, Microsoft and others to focus on Americans

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  • alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]
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    Said with a straight face, to Google and Microsoft CEOs who are both from India

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      This will just further the business model of "We offer AI, but actually it's just Indians" with big tech companies gladly looking past the AI not being really AI

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        We won’t and please do not speak for us. We will however keep the “remote” bit thanks very much

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        Yeah I agree rather not take any cut because productivity did not change. In fact having ultra wides at home vs 17" at work is godsend. Don't even get me started in the endless noise with open floor plan.

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          Are these hordes of unemployed cheap tech people in the room with us?

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          There are hordes of unemployed techies for sure. American companies have been outsourcing everything and laying off everyone left and right. Everyone feels like it's only a matter of time before they're sent off.

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            Said with a straight face, to Google and Microsoft CEOs who are both from India

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            I think I recently saw Microsoft put a request for 3x h4b visas more than the number of engineers they fired in the most recent firing wave.

            Pretty sure it was rubber stamped.

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              Tax cuts and bail outs.

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              Actually that’s the “problem” isnt it. There’s a tax loophole for tech industry payroll that was recently closed up if I recall correctly.

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                Actually that’s the “problem” isnt it. There’s a tax loophole for tech industry payroll that was recently closed up if I recall correctly.

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                Tech workers can't be written down as R&D anymore, and get a big tax cut on the wages. Immediately layoffs started. That's what I recall.

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                • alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]
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                  Feels like they took a look at the lump of labor fallacy and said, "How could we structure the country so that jobs really are finite?"

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                    Tech workers can't be written down as R&D anymore, and get a big tax cut on the wages. Immediately layoffs started. That's what I recall.

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                    That’s the one

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                      Tech workers can't be written down as R&D anymore, and get a big tax cut on the wages. Immediately layoffs started. That's what I recall.

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                      And that was signed by Trump.

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                      • alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]
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                        This is just Trump bullshitting. He's not rolling back H1B or anything.

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                          We won’t and please do not speak for us. We will however keep the “remote” bit thanks very much

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                          I would take a paycut to work remotely

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                            In addition, Trump expressed dislike for the term "artificial intelligence" itself, saying he preferred a name that better shows the intelligence and power of the technology. “It’s not artificial, it’s genius,” he said.

                            So, like he wanted to rename Gulf of Mexico, now he will sign a decree forcing everyone to use GI (Genius Intelligence) instead of AI (or A1 if you ask his entourage)

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                            SGI (if you really can't figure it out, stable genius intelligence)

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                              lol they won’t. Also, enough folks from India are here in the NW that there are minority support groups that specifically exclude them because otherwise they get very little representation. I believe the phrase is “non-Asian minority”, or similar.

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                                I think I recently saw Microsoft put a request for 3x h4b visas more than the number of engineers they fired in the most recent firing wave.

                                Pretty sure it was rubber stamped.

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                                They fire h1b folks too. I remember in 2014 when they fired several thousand people one guy from I dis was a new dad and suddenly he had no job and a deadline to find a new job that would “sponsor” him or else he and his family had to return to India. It was like 90 days or something. I still think about him sometimes and hope he’s ok.

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                                  They fire h1b folks too. I remember in 2014 when they fired several thousand people one guy from I dis was a new dad and suddenly he had no job and a deadline to find a new job that would “sponsor” him or else he and his family had to return to India. It was like 90 days or something. I still think about him sometimes and hope he’s ok.

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                                  A particularly fucked up part is that the 90 days wasnt official but just in allowed as a grace period if someone loses their job, and USCIS was told to exercise discretion. That's gone completely out the window and those fellas can now be targeted for following promises made earlier.

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                                    Most big tech and other Fortune 500 companies open offices or outsource their network ops to Asia already, so there is no need for visas. Good luck getting those jobs back. Source: I work in telecom.

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                                      I think I recently saw Microsoft put a request for 3x h4b visas more than the number of engineers they fired in the most recent firing wave.

                                      Pretty sure it was rubber stamped.

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                                      This is another instance where you need to focus on what Trump does, not what he says.

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