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  • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

    I don't get it, what's to stop people photobombing his wedding with lots and lots of annoying drones

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    I think workers would be better than drones. Drones can't even sting.

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    • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.deI [email protected]

      and the law only requires that you scribble the ID somewhere on the craft

      most bought drones also transmit it wirelessly too

      many use direct WiFi connections

      yes, the toy ones, once you get 10m away you aren't controlling that drone anymore, let alone recieving pictures

      which can be completely spoofed over 3G proxies

      once you start introducing the internet the lag becomes unbearable, and also phone towers are aimed at the ground, not at the sky, so you'd get shit reception anyways

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      Tell that to these guys:

      https://github.com/uavpal/beboptwo4g/wiki/faq#latency

      Typically for direct connections (see this FAQ entry), the latency is around 50 ms. The pre- and post-processing of the live video stream is more than that, which you will also experience when flying in the original set-up (over Wi-Fi).

      For more staged setups, there's always MAVproxy

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      • D [email protected]

        Tax property, tax inheritance, tax capital gains no matter if realized or not, tax passive income of all kinds. Tax them progressively and tax the highest brackets high enough that these giant fortunes actually shrink. There is no other way (well... besides revolution) to reduce the spiraling inequality which is at the root of major problems all over the world.

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        If only poor people could purchase senators and congressmen (and Supreme Court justices).

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          Original post from u/Kvolti on reddit

          More informations and pictures here:

          https://www.greenpeace.org/italy/storia/27709/abbiamo-contestato-jeff-bezos-a-venezia/

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          This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

          If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

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          • D [email protected]

            Tax property, tax inheritance, tax capital gains no matter if realized or not, tax passive income of all kinds. Tax them progressively and tax the highest brackets high enough that these giant fortunes actually shrink. There is no other way (well... besides revolution) to reduce the spiraling inequality which is at the root of major problems all over the world.

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            Imagine if you took $100 billion from any of these Goblins, they wouldn't even notice it, but that money could fund homeless solutions (or any other problem) forever.

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            • B [email protected]

              Imagine if you took $100 billion from any of these Goblins, they wouldn't even notice it, but that money could fund homeless solutions (or any other problem) forever.

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              $100B would put you at #19 richest person. If taken from Elon, he wouldn't even lose a spot...

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              • B [email protected]

                Original post from u/Kvolti on reddit

                More informations and pictures here:

                https://www.greenpeace.org/italy/storia/27709/abbiamo-contestato-jeff-bezos-a-venezia/

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                Jeff Bezos, probably: get tanks out there tomorrow…

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                • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                  There is no other way (well… besides revolution)

                  The backlash that you'll receive from the cronies of mega-capital will make revolution inevitable. That's assuming you can get so far as to democratically reform the tax code in an electoral system that cages voters, manufacturers consent, and manipulates the courts to guarantee only their people hold office.

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                  I can't even really disagree with you, but not trying still isn't an option. It's our job to at least try to convince our immediate peers.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

                    If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

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                    God knows you're faking, because he knows that to believe in him you'll have to give up on women's rights, science, etc

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                    • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                      Tell that to these guys:

                      https://github.com/uavpal/beboptwo4g/wiki/faq#latency

                      Typically for direct connections (see this FAQ entry), the latency is around 50 ms. The pre- and post-processing of the live video stream is more than that, which you will also experience when flying in the original set-up (over Wi-Fi).

                      For more staged setups, there's always MAVproxy

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                      very cool stuff, i stand corrected

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Original post from u/Kvolti on reddit

                        More informations and pictures here:

                        https://www.greenpeace.org/italy/storia/27709/abbiamo-contestato-jeff-bezos-a-venezia/

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                        Video of the police removing it:

                        https://media.greenpeace.org/Detail/27MZIFJR34IAC

                        https://media.greenpeace.org/collection/27MZIFJRB6H5K

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                        • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                          who control the air?

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                          There are a lot of anti drone defense systems at this point

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                          • B [email protected]

                            This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

                            If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

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                            Once this doesn't happen remember that god is not real and that destiny it's in your hands.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              It's trivial to design an inheritance tax that doesn't tax a family's (first) home and starts above a certain amount (500k, a million, two, make it 10 for all I care) that still allows lower and middle classes to build reasonable wealth. It's also not that hard to not have a million loopholes for the excessively rich. That only gets difficult when people fall for the usual lies, like "businesses will close down and you will lose your jobs".

                              Start penalizing tax havens like Ireland.

                              Tax based on passport, allow for taxes at their place of residence to take priority (so, you can pay low taxes in Ireland, but if it's less than our tax, you pay the rest here), tax them a lot if they relinquish their passport. No need to start international beef about this.

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                              Oh, of course it is trivial, the issue is the political will to do it. As for tax havens I was thinking more along the lines of corporate tax evasion by companies like Apple.

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                              • banana@sh.itjust.worksB [email protected]

                                Why are you trying to ingratiate yourself to billionaires that would squash you under their heel in an instant like an ant and not bat a fucking eye?

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                                I literally don't care what he's doing as long as he doesn't do illegal tax evasion. He's not a bad person if he adhers to the laws. He had a big wedding, so what? Why do you even care? If think this is unfair go vote...

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                                • starlinguk@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                  He's renting it from the interest and profits he gets from those stocks. I'm paying tax on the gains I get from my stocks and so should he.

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                                  Interest and profits from the stocks? Can you elaborats?

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    You know that income tax and capital gains tax are not the only kinds of tax, right?

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                                    There is no capital gains tax. There is tax on realized capital gains, which is income. Can you elaborate what you mean? I might be wrong.

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                                      I literally don't care what he's doing as long as he doesn't do illegal tax evasion. He's not a bad person if he adhers to the laws. He had a big wedding, so what? Why do you even care? If think this is unfair go vote...

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                                      Nah man, billionaires shouldn't exist. It is literally impossible to amass that type of wealth without exploiting (stealing surplus value from) people working for you. Aside from that, it is more money than a person could ever spend and takes huge amounts of money out of the economy, slowing the velocity of money.

                                      You should care, because it actively harms the economy to have that kind of wealth hoarding.

                                      And I do vote, but that doesn't help in a broken system built by people like this to enable and encourage exploitation. Do you really think that the people in power actually wish to hold people like this accountable? Of course they fuckin don't, they're the same goddamn people.

                                      I work in tax and i can tell you the tax systems are broken once you pass a certain level of wealth most of us will never achieve in our lifetimes. This is by design.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        There is no capital gains tax. There is tax on realized capital gains, which is income. Can you elaborate what you mean? I might be wrong.

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                                        You are wrong in terminology. Capital gains tax is not the same as income tax. The “realized“ term you mentioned is already redundant with the “gains”. If it’s unrealized there is no gain.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax

                                        However, it’s also possible to tax capital itself. This is normally referred to as a wealth tax

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax

                                        You seem to be under the impression that these existing categories are the only kinds of tax that can exist. In reality, it’s entirely possible to structure taxes in any way that people can devise.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_taxes

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