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    ohh god, I never through to ask reasoning models,

    DeepSeekR17b was gold too

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    then 14b, man sooo close...

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    • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

      Now ask how many asses there are in assassinations

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      It works if you use a reasoning model... but yeah, still ass

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      • abfarid@startrek.websiteA [email protected]

        I get the meme aspect of this. But just to be clear, it was never fair to judge LLMs for specifically this. The LLM doesn't even see the letters in the words, as every word is broken down into tokens, which are numbers. I suppose with a big enough corpus of data it might eventually extrapolate which words have which letter from texts describing these words, but normally it shouldn't be expected.

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        I don't know what part of what I said prompted all those downvotes, but of course all the reasonable people understood, that the "AGI in 2 years" was a stock price pump.

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          I've actually messed with this a bit. The problem is more that it can't count to begin with. If you ask it to spell out each letter individually (ie each letter will be its own token), it still gets the count wrong.

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          In my experience, when using reasoning models, it can count, but not very consistently. I've tried random assortments of letters and it can count them correctly sometimes. It seems to have much harder time when the same letter repeats many times, perhaps because those are tokenized irregularly.

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          • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

            are you sure?

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            Sorry, that was Claude 3.7, not ChatGPT 4o

            https://github.com/elder-plinius/CL4R1T4S/blob/d9a004b5a29395675c5a548acfc386459f71cd14/ANTHROPIC/Claude_Sonnet_3.7_New.txt#L92

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            • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]
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              Singularity is here

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              • S [email protected]

                You might just love Blind Sight. Here, they're trying to decide if an alien life form is sentient or a Chinese Room:

                "Tell me more about your cousins," Rorschach sent.

                "Our cousins lie about the family tree," Sascha replied, "with nieces and nephews and Neandertals. We do not like annoying cousins."

                "We'd like to know about this tree."

                Sascha muted the channel and gave us a look that said Could it be any more obvious? "It couldn't have parsed that. There were three linguistic ambiguities in there. It just ignored them."

                "Well, it asked for clarification," Bates pointed out.

                "It asked a follow-up question. Different thing entirely."

                Bates was still out of the loop. Szpindel was starting to get it, though.. .

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                Blindsight is such a great novel. It has not one, not two but three great sci-fi concepts rolled into one book.

                One is artificial intelligence (the ship's captain is an AI), the second is alien life so vastly different it appears incomprehensible to human minds. And last but not least, and the most wild, vampires as a evolutionary branch of humanity that died out and has been recreated in the future.

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                  Sorry, that was Claude 3.7, not ChatGPT 4o

                  https://github.com/elder-plinius/CL4R1T4S/blob/d9a004b5a29395675c5a548acfc386459f71cd14/ANTHROPIC/Claude_Sonnet_3.7_New.txt#L92

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                  ah, that's reasonable though, considering LLMs don't really "see" characters, it's kind of impressive this works sometimes

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                  • S [email protected]

                    No. Artificial Intelligence has to be imitating intelligent behavior - such as the ghosts imitating how, ostensibly, a ghost trapped in a maze and hungry for yellow circular flesh would behave, and how CS1.6 bots imitate the behavior of intelligent players. They artificially reproduce intelligent behavior.

                    Which means LLMs are very much AI. They are not, however, AGI.

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                    No, the logic for a Pac Man ghost is a solid state machine

                    Stupid people attributing intelligence to something that is probably not is a shameful hill to die on.

                    Your god is just an autocomplete bot that you refuse to learn about outside the hype bubble

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                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth

                      I’ve heard “squirrel” was used to trap Germans.

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                      I wonder if any of the Axis even bothered to have such a system to check for Americans.

                      "Bawn-jehr-no"

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                        AI is amazing, we're so fucked.

                        /s

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                          I really like checking these myself to make sure it’s true. I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED!

                          (Total Rs is 8. But the LOGIC ChatGPT pulls out is ……. remarkable!)

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                          • G [email protected]

                            They don't. They can save information on drives, but searching is expensive and fuzzy search is a mystery.

                            Just because you can save a mp3 without losing data does not mean you can save the entire Internet in 400gb and search within an instant.

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                            Which is why it doesn’t search within an instant and it uses a bunch of energy and needs to rely on evaporative cooling to stop overheating the servers

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                              I wonder if any of the Axis even bothered to have such a system to check for Americans.

                              "Bawn-jehr-no"

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                              I speak Italian first-best.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Obligatory 'lore dump' on the word lollapalooza:

                                That word was a common slang term in the 1930s/40s American lingo that meant... essentially a very raucous, lively party.

                                ::: spoiler Note/Rant on the meaning of this term

                                The current merriam webster and dictionary.com definitions of this term meaning 'an outstanding or exceptional or extreme thing' are wrong, they are too broad.

                                While historical usage varied, it almost always appeared as a noun describing a gathering of many people, one that was so lively or spectacular that you would be exhausted after attending it.

                                When it did not appear as a noun describing a lively, possibly also 'star-studded' or extravagant, party, it appeared as a term for some kind of action that would cause you to be bamboozled, discombobulated... similar to 'that was a real humdinger of a blahblah' or 'that blahblah was a real doozy'... which ties into the effects of having been through the 'raucous party' meaning of lolapalooza.

                                :::

                                So... in WW2, in the Pacific theatre... many US Marines were often engaged in brutal, jungle combat, often at night, and they adopted a system of basically verbal identification challenge checks if they noticed someone creeping up on their foxholes at night.

                                An example of this system used in the European theatre, I believe by the 101st and 82nd airborne, was the challenge 'Thunder!' to which the correct response was 'Flash!'.

                                In the Pacific theatre... the Marines adopted a challenge / response system... where the correct response was 'Lolapalooza'...

                                Because native born Japanese speakers are taught a phoneme that is roughly in between and 'r' and an 'l' ... and they very often struggle to say 'Lolapalooza' without a very noticable accent, unless they've also spent a good deal of time learning spoken English (or some other language with distinct 'l' and 'r' phonemes), which very few Japanese did in the 1940s.

                                ::: spoiler racist and nsfw historical example of / evidence for this

                                https://www.ep.tc/howtospotajap/howto06.html

                                :::

                                Now, some people will say this is a total myth, others will say it is not.

                                My Grandpa who served in the Pacific Theatre during WW2 told me it did happen, though he was Navy and not a Marine... but the other stories about this I've always heard that say it did happen, they all say it happened with the Marines.

                                My Grandpa is also another source for what 'lolapalooza' actually means.

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                                I'm still puzzled by the idea of what mess this war was if at times you had someone still not clearly identifiable, but that close you can do a sheboleth check on them, and that at any moment you or the other could be shot dead.

                                Also, the current conflict of Russia vs Ukraine seems to invent ukrainian 'паляница' as a check, but as I had no connection to actual ukrainians and their UAF, I can't say if that's not entirely localized to the internet.

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                                • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                                  I'm going to hell for laughing at that

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                                  Don't be. Although there are millions of corpses behind each WW2 joke, getting it means you are personally aware of that, and it means something. 'Those who don't know shit about the past struggles are to reiterate them' and all that.

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                                    We gotta raise the bar, so they keep struggling to make it “better”

                                    ::: spoiler My attempt

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                                    Btw, I refuse to give my money to AI bros, so I don’t have the “latest and greatest”

                                    :::

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                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth

                                      I’ve heard “squirrel” was used to trap Germans.

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                                      If you've ever heard Germans try to pronounce "squirrel", it's hilarious. I've known many extremely bilingual Germans who couldn't pronounce it at all. It came out sounding roughly like "squall", or they'd over-pronounce the "r" and it would be "squi-rall"

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                                        It's funny how people always quickly point out that an LLM wasn't made for this, and then continue to shill it for use cases it wasn't made for either (The "intelligence" part of AI, for starters)

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                                        then continue to shill it for use cases it wasn't made for either

                                        The only thing it was made for is "spicy autocomplete".

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                                        • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                          If you've ever heard Germans try to pronounce "squirrel", it's hilarious. I've known many extremely bilingual Germans who couldn't pronounce it at all. It came out sounding roughly like "squall", or they'd over-pronounce the "r" and it would be "squi-rall"

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                                          Sqverrrrl.

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