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Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet

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  • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

    Why do you assume that the old school forums are going to get exempted? They are going to get on the bus or get run over by it just like everywhere else. Government has already proven that they can, and will, regulate those forums.

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    Great question!

    First, that the definition of content that is considered "adult" doesn't necessarily mean every forum qualifies. Privacyguides.org likely would not. A car forum likely would not. Facebook must comply because links shared can be "harmful" anywhere on the platform. The fractured nature of Web 1.0 is a feature now, not a bug.

    Second, that proxy measures can reasonably work for forums with smart admins. If I register with an email I can show has been in use since 2007, some forums are willing to accept that as enough evidence. I saw an article somewhere I can't find right now that someone was accepting 5 year old tickets to a concert or something that was an 18+ event. Typically age verification laws are focused on large Web 2.0 platforms and can include lower cost, lower threshold options for sites with a very small number of users.

    Finally, that it might simply take a longer time for anyone to care or even notice some smaller sites. By the time someone comes calling, policies might have already changed several times and reasonable exemptions now mean no work is needed.

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      Also apps that don't need servers. Switched to this for staying in touch with family p2p, works surprisingly well https://keet.io/

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      Do they publish their protocol or how it works anywhere? Their site didn't seem to have much technical info at first glance

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      • bananaonionjuice@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

        Or ZeroNet

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        What a throwback. I was on there but then it stopped suddenly.

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          What a throwback. I was on there but then it stopped suddenly.

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          I was hoping it still lived on, and had improved bootstrapping and search.

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            Yes, the EU with their draconian and dystopian plans just go over our heads and do it.
            All quiet and sneaky, no articles in the sold out press, only small specific outlets or sites that investigate privacy or tech.

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              Suppose true, then we'll reduce the use of "the whole Internet".

              OK, we won't, no tools yet.

              I really love Briar, except it's functionally not quite there yet, and the desktop kind of such application synchronized with neighboring ships, so to say, with a delay-tolerant Web alternative, would be good. Over various links and media.

              Anyway, it's not a technical problem, it's a social problem. Not really different from ID checks on the streets and everywhere you go in the city, except much of the city got virtualized. And ID checks on the streets are automated by cameras everywhere and face recognition.

              Social problems are resolved in the legal, social, protest, civil war fields.

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              ID checks on the streets and everywhere you go in the city, except much of the city got virtualized

              Except on the internet, you can still create your own street with your own rules.

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                Also apps that don't need servers. Switched to this for staying in touch with family p2p, works surprisingly well https://keet.io/

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                  Time to buy Death Stranding 2 I guess

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                    And as soon as that happens, I'm out. I'd rather just opt out of the modern internet. I already have to deal with my information getting leaked from various different services at least once every couple years it seems. I can change a credit card or a password, I can't change my ID.

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                    Only once every couple of years! Wow you've got it good!!

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                      There's fucking off, then there's what the government can do. It'

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                        oh no, the world will find out I'm 50. oh the shame, oh the horror.

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                        Youngster, you don't know what you're saying

                        Yeah, I'm older than you.

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                          This is why the Dark-web exists.

                          • Tor
                          • I2P
                          • Yggdrasil
                          • LokiNet
                          • FreeNet
                          • ZeroNet
                          • GNUnet (In the distant future)

                          Did I miss anything ?

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                          • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                            I will move to freenet, i2p and tor

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                            Tor was a U.S. government supported service and guess who pulled the plug on it.

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                              Good!! Lets jail all the pedos too

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                              Who let the Trumper in?

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                                Do they publish their protocol or how it works anywhere? Their site didn't seem to have much technical info at first glance

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                                https://docs.pears.com/

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                                • deafboy@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

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                                  Got this response from one of the developers:

                                  Looks like a routing issue, it works when navigated to from the index page without a full reload.

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                                  • deafboy@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                    ID checks on the streets and everywhere you go in the city, except much of the city got virtualized

                                    Except on the internet, you can still create your own street with your own rules.

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                                    If you buy\rent a house (suppose) intended as, well, housing, and make a family diner there without registration, you will break the law.

                                    They can easily do this with the Internet.

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                                    • farraigeplaisteach@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                      I have personally never found tech articles arousing in that way

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                                      Speak for yourself... 🥴

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                                        Tor was a U.S. government supported service and guess who pulled the plug on it.

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                                        Really? I haven't really used Tor but I can't find anything about that. What happened?

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                                          Really? I haven't really used Tor but I can't find anything about that. What happened?

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                                          Current US administration stopped funding it as part of their slide towards corporate-driven dystopia, I believe. Tor itself is still out there, just a little more strapped for cash than it used to be.

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