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Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet

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  • P [email protected]

    I don't see how anybody could come for lemmy. I feel this just attacks centralized services

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    Lemmy is still very centralized,
    sure there are many servers
    and that takes care of the /u/spez problem
    but very little else, most topic generally have one big community
    and it's on the one big server

    You can go elsewhere, if you like speaking into the void and nobody even hearing you.

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    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

      If it was so trivial why would they even bother making everyone show their IDs?

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      Not a static target. What we consider a profile today is vastly more comprehensive than what was deemed sufficient a few decades ago. Ad networks today would put intelligence agencies back then to shame. They can always get more info. Adding biometric face data is useful to them. In a few more decades people might be talking about if Google and governments should be allowed to read your thoughts. The tech making this possible is already being developed and further along than many might expect.

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        Nah the government would love for nobody to have access to the internet lol

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        The US government created the internet

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        • P [email protected]

          Lemmy will be pressured into age verification also and most hosts will crumble. $50M per caught infraction is wild.

          We gonna end up going back to libraries. Which actually would be cool as fuck. Like Yentl when all those dudes are hanging out in a big ass room talking philosophy. It'll re-spark the postal service. Live music will thrive. Coz everyone will be like fuck the internet, we'll do it live.

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          Lemmy will be pressured into age verification also and most hosts will crumble.

          Then just self host

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            Lemmy will be pressured into age verification also and most hosts will crumble.

            Then just self host

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            ah ha! Guess that's how we beat the system.
            People would need to sub to your instance though for you to post content right?

            What would the pros and cons be?

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            • mystvalkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

              No one needs the internet outside of work. The moment I'm forced to show my ID or get my face scanned, I'm done for good.

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              No one needs the internet outside of work.

              As someone with a disability (and no car), the internet has played a massive role in allowing me to live independently, which in turn has a profoundly positive impact on my mental health. There are a wide variety of circumstances in which the internet has enhanced life experience - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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              • teknikal@eviltoast.orgT [email protected]

                I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I'm betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.

                Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.

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                Hahaha

                Good luck doing that.

                People can't even delay their non-essential shinies to make a statement against price gouging/raising bullshit.. You think they're gonna willingly sacrifice something like internet? for a month?

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                • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                  Not much more than the www.

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                  By proportion maybe?

                  (Just guessing, I’m not on there)

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                  • P [email protected]

                    By proportion maybe?

                    (Just guessing, I’m not on there)

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                    Yeah, it's all relative. It's like the www before corporate takeover. Like the old www, you need to have some sense on where to go and where to avoid.

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                    • J [email protected]

                      No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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                      Australians will soon be subjected to mandatory age checks across the internet landscape, in what has been described as a huge and unprecedented change.

                      Search engines are next in line for the same controversial age-assurance technology behind the teen social media ban, and other parts of the internet are likely to follow suit.

                      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-11/age-verification-search-engines/105516256

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                      • coil@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                        It's not about actually protecting children. It's about data.

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                        The purpose is to protect the mainstream media.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Can you have age verification and still be anonymous on the Internet? (Fixed fukted typo)

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                          Yes, but the legislation specifically rules out that technology. The purpose is to remove anonymity.

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                          • I [email protected]

                            They mean most of the internet for most people
                            Only the vast socially relevant parts of the internet

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                            elite nerds who use lemmy will be able to circumvent

                            if the snobs are fine, why care?

                            those people kvetching about how the endless September ruined everything will have their wish

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                            • P [email protected]

                              ah ha! Guess that's how we beat the system.
                              People would need to sub to your instance though for you to post content right?

                              What would the pros and cons be?

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                              People would need to sub to your instance though for you to post content right?

                              I think there is some way to automatically forward your content but I don't self host and am not an expert.

                              Pros are that while you could be "defederated", you can't be banned. You make any decisions and could also let others use your system.

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                              • J [email protected]

                                Can't tell if meth addict or rage bot.

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                                Can tell that you're a nonce, chomo

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                                • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                                  elite nerds who use lemmy will be able to circumvent

                                  if the snobs are fine, why care?

                                  those people kvetching about how the endless September ruined everything will have their wish

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                                  Well if they enslave everyone else, we are going to feel it too, no matter what cracks of the system we hide in

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    The US government created the internet

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                                    It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

                                    Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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                                      Can tell that you're a nonce, chomo

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                                      Meth addict.

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                                        Meth addict.

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                                        Ask yourself why you are so triggered when I call you a chomo do some introspection

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                                          Gotta show me the relevant RFC for BGP first.

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