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Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet

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  • teknikal@eviltoast.orgT [email protected]

    I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I'm betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.

    Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.

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    Hahaha

    Good luck doing that.

    People can't even delay their non-essential shinies to make a statement against price gouging/raising bullshit.. You think they're gonna willingly sacrifice something like internet? for a month?

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

      Not much more than the www.

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      By proportion maybe?

      (Just guessing, I’m not on there)

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        By proportion maybe?

        (Just guessing, I’m not on there)

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        Yeah, it's all relative. It's like the www before corporate takeover. Like the old www, you need to have some sense on where to go and where to avoid.

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          No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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          Australians will soon be subjected to mandatory age checks across the internet landscape, in what has been described as a huge and unprecedented change.

          Search engines are next in line for the same controversial age-assurance technology behind the teen social media ban, and other parts of the internet are likely to follow suit.

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-11/age-verification-search-engines/105516256

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          • coil@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            It's not about actually protecting children. It's about data.

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            The purpose is to protect the mainstream media.

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              Can you have age verification and still be anonymous on the Internet? (Fixed fukted typo)

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              Yes, but the legislation specifically rules out that technology. The purpose is to remove anonymity.

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                They mean most of the internet for most people
                Only the vast socially relevant parts of the internet

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                elite nerds who use lemmy will be able to circumvent

                if the snobs are fine, why care?

                those people kvetching about how the endless September ruined everything will have their wish

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                • P [email protected]

                  ah ha! Guess that's how we beat the system.
                  People would need to sub to your instance though for you to post content right?

                  What would the pros and cons be?

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                  People would need to sub to your instance though for you to post content right?

                  I think there is some way to automatically forward your content but I don't self host and am not an expert.

                  Pros are that while you could be "defederated", you can't be banned. You make any decisions and could also let others use your system.

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                    Can't tell if meth addict or rage bot.

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                    Can tell that you're a nonce, chomo

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                    • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                      elite nerds who use lemmy will be able to circumvent

                      if the snobs are fine, why care?

                      those people kvetching about how the endless September ruined everything will have their wish

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                      Well if they enslave everyone else, we are going to feel it too, no matter what cracks of the system we hide in

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                        The US government created the internet

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                        It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

                        Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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                          Can tell that you're a nonce, chomo

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                          Meth addict.

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                            Meth addict.

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                            Ask yourself why you are so triggered when I call you a chomo do some introspection

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                              Gotta show me the relevant RFC for BGP first.

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                                No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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                                It's the Internet. There are internets, but just one Internet.

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                                  No one needs the internet outside of work.

                                  As someone with a disability (and no car), the internet has played a massive role in allowing me to live independently, which in turn has a profoundly positive impact on my mental health. There are a wide variety of circumstances in which the internet has enhanced life experience - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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                                  I'm sorry. I suppose I should have said "I don't need the internet outside of work."

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                                    No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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                                    For some people "the whole internet" is like half a dozen websites.

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                                      For what ? Opposing pedos.

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                                      For the csam on your hard drive you projecting freak

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                                      • mystvalkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

                                        I'm sorry. I suppose I should have said "I don't need the internet outside of work."

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                                        All good! There's probably far more people in your boat than mine; it was a pretty natural conclusion to draw šŸ™‚

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                                          I've read what seems like 30+ articles and explainers about the UK law the last few days - this has some lousy (official) defintions. I think the most recent episode of Power User with Taylor Lorenz might cover some of this enough to get the overall sense.

                                          The topics under scrutiny of the "user-to-user" site is extremely vague beyond obvious porn, but it amounts to if it allows the sharing of links of basic news of any topic, it counts. Because in terms of categorizing "harmful content" for minors, seeing fucking protests happening anywhere, at all is "controversial adult content." But if the links are limited to a very specific topic, say Honda Ridgeline owners, privacy and cyber nerd shit no one cares about) etc., cooking, and other innocuous things, it's a grey zone that doesn't demand compliance. YMMV, but even for a fascist wannabe set of policies can't justify "harmful" material for kids with a Linux forum or a forum for owners of the Honda Ridgeline (WTF?)

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                                          ok but my point is that if someone posts a protest article link to the honda forum, then, as I understand, the forum will become legally liable for that too. so if the forum guarantee that the link won't even get publicly visible for a second, that's when they don't need to do age verification

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