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  • bananaonionjuice@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

    Or ZeroNet

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    ZeroNet

    What's up on ZeroNet these days?

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      Article is paywalled.

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      95% of the time reader mode bypasses the paywall and this is one of those times

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      • nymnympseudonym@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        We have already done that. It's called Dreddit and not even major governments can stop it.

        https://www.torproject.org/

        https://dark.fail/

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        Is it filled with the type of people that one might wish major governments could stop, though?

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          Can you have age verification and still be anonymous on the Internet? (Fixed fukted typo)

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          • unclegrandpa@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

            They intend to tie a name to every keystroke

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            every keystroke

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            • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

              I2p exists

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              So do a million different forms of encryption. That doesn't make the infrastructure any less centralized. If the people who own the fiber decide to only allow pre-approved types of traffic to cross their networks then it doesn't make any difference what sort of protocols exist. Building free cross-country or subsea fiber routes is not economically viable and the internet doesn't exist without them.

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                Can you have age verification and still be anonymous on the Internet? (Fixed fukted typo)

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                the fuck happened to you at the end there

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                  oh no, the world will find out I'm 50. oh the shame, oh the horror.

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                  And they know your medical conditions, your income, your likes and dislikes, your hobbies, your vices, your insecurities, your deepest desires. Fast forward 10 years and every page and site you visit will be AI generated on the spot to lead you around by the nose and which way they feel like.

                  "Your local team just won the championship! Buy one of their limited edition jerseys now for only one hour of your income! Act now and we won't send videos of you jerking it to your coworker your wife is super jealous of. If you pay for express shipping we'll disable your home security and quietly sneak in and hang it in your closet, even while you sleep! Just kidding! We bought all of this for you anyway, because we own your drug store and we would've just withheld your insulin until you bought a jersey... I mean TWO jerseys."

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                    So do a million different forms of encryption. That doesn't make the infrastructure any less centralized. If the people who own the fiber decide to only allow pre-approved types of traffic to cross their networks then it doesn't make any difference what sort of protocols exist. Building free cross-country or subsea fiber routes is not economically viable and the internet doesn't exist without them.

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                    Please look into how i2p works. It’s not just some form of encryption.

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                    • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

                      Unless you are one of the extreme privacy people, like deep into freakaziod territory, the folks who build tracking / id systems would maybe need an afternoon to go from your Lemmy username to your home address and underwear size.

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                      For my account sure. I use the same username most places. But it’s also reasonable to have a fairly decent Lemmy account that’s decoupled from all your other online accounts. Use a temp email provider, VPN, and proper browser and you’re most of the way there.

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                        the fuck happened to you at the end there

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                        Sounds like they're asking about anonymous amicable anuities, and the answer is no, those are regulated by the SEC (or whatever investment governing body in your area), so you can't legally buy an anuity anonymously, even if it's amicable.

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                          95% of the time reader mode bypasses the paywall and this is one of those times

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                          Thanks babe

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                          • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

                            decentralized apps, fediverse

                            Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

                            This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

                            It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

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                            Last time I checked, the p!rate bay still exists. In fact there are many of them. Because the website itself is open source. The same could be done with any other site. If one gets taken down, two more pop up in it's place.

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                            • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                              Please look into how i2p works. It’s not just some form of encryption.

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                              Please explain how you can bypass carrier enforced traffic shaping policy.

                              From geti2p.net:

                              I2P's protocols are efficient on most platforms, including cell phones, and secure for most threat models. However, there are several areas which require further improvement to meet the needs of those facing powerful state-sponsored adversaries, and to meet the threats of continued cryptographic advances and ever-increasing computing power.

                              The people involved in the project you're referring to acknowledge that governments can, by influencing carrier policy, disrupt and subvert the project's intended function. Why then are you implying they are incorrect?

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                                See you guys in I2P.

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                                What's I2P?

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                                  Good!! Lets jail all the pedos too

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                                  You’d be first in jail

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                                  • bananaonionjuice@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                    Or ZeroNet

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                                    Is that project still alive? Their git repo hasn't been updated in years.

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                                      ZeroNet

                                      What's up on ZeroNet these days?

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                                      I don't know what on there, but I do know that age verification is not on there, so...

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                                        Is it filled with the type of people that one might wish major governments could stop, though?

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                                        Not much more than the www.

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                                        • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

                                          Google already changed logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login on roku and Android shield when it used to look like the logged in version just a couple weeks ago. Probably the kick I needed to get off, mostly just using it for a couple smaller call-in/debate streamers I can switch to a podcast or other version.

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                                          logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login

                                          I got this update on my smart TV, and I don't think Google realizes how much of an improvement it is. It's unintentionally the best thing the app has ever done.

                                          Finally, no more fucking clickbait clutter all over the screen. I already just search for the channels I want to watch anyway. I love it.

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