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Is it expected to drink alcohol on first date?

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    So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

    I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

    I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

    I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

    What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

    (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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      So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

      I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

      I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

      I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

      What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

      (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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      It's common, but not expected in the sense that most potential partners would be put off by your choice not to drink. If a date pressures you to drink when you don't want to, that's a red flag. Maybe propose something other than a bar if you don't want to drink.

      Why drink if you’re gonna drive?

      A large number of people, perhaps even a majority think that it's perfectly fine to drive after light drinking. The bar industry in the USA has tried to push a narrative that it's mainly severely impaired drivers who cause crashes and the current DUI thresholds are too low. I used to think that until I went looking for research to back it up and found that there's a pretty linear response in terms of driving worse as BAC increases. Driving is dangerous enough without any impairment.

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        It's common, but not expected in the sense that most potential partners would be put off by your choice not to drink. If a date pressures you to drink when you don't want to, that's a red flag. Maybe propose something other than a bar if you don't want to drink.

        Why drink if you’re gonna drive?

        A large number of people, perhaps even a majority think that it's perfectly fine to drive after light drinking. The bar industry in the USA has tried to push a narrative that it's mainly severely impaired drivers who cause crashes and the current DUI thresholds are too low. I used to think that until I went looking for research to back it up and found that there's a pretty linear response in terms of driving worse as BAC increases. Driving is dangerous enough without any impairment.

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        For me, 0.08 BAC would mean I feel drunk as shit. Other people may not feel it. The fact that people think it's too low is baffling.

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          For me, 0.08 BAC would mean I feel drunk as shit. Other people may not feel it. The fact that people think it's too low is baffling.

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          People who binge drink frequently get used to it and don't feel very drunk at 0.08. It doesn't mean they're not significantly impaired. Add that to a bit of propaganda from the bar industry, which has an incentive to normalize impaired driving and it starts to make sense.

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            So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

            I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

            I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

            I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

            What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

            (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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            As an American in his mid 40s, I can say that I've never once had alcohol on a first date

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              So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

              I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

              I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

              I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

              What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

              (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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              You can consider it a filter. Anyone who can't understand you not drinking on a first date probably isn't compatible with you. Not because of their drinking preferences but because of their unwillingness to respect your choices.

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                So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

                I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

                I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

                I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

                What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

                (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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                even as a drinker, i did not drink alcohol on any date.

                if your date simply needs alcohol, that tells you something you should probably know.

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                  So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

                  I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

                  I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

                  I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

                  What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

                  (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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                  Alcohol is a social lubricant, if you're a drinker then yes it's pretty natural to assume a few drinks on a first date would loosen both parties up. Not everyone is a drinker and that's fine but I don't think it's weird at all to want drinks on an occasion where people are probably a bit nervous and awkward. Re: driving, take an uber? The bus?

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                    So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it's almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

                    I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

                    I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

                    I for one don't understand how drinking makes sense where I'm at. Even I'm in a good metro area but I'd still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It's the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you're gonna drive?

                    What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

                    (Yes, I've never dated and therefore have no insight.)

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                    If you don't drink, don't drink.

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                      People who binge drink frequently get used to it and don't feel very drunk at 0.08. It doesn't mean they're not significantly impaired. Add that to a bit of propaganda from the bar industry, which has an incentive to normalize impaired driving and it starts to make sense.

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                      Right. But 0.08 is still very inebriated is my point. Regardless of if you feel it or not. I'm sure some people who drink a lot probably feel that 0.08 means they're totally fine, however this is objectively false.

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                        Right. But 0.08 is still very inebriated is my point. Regardless of if you feel it or not. I'm sure some people who drink a lot probably feel that 0.08 means they're totally fine, however this is objectively false.

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                        I think we are in vehement agreement.

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