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Israeli soldier tells CBS News he was ordered to use Palestinians as human shields in Gaza

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    "We've burned down buildings for no reasons, which is violating the international law, of course," he told CBS News. "…And we used human shields as protection."

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    Wow. That’s… insanely blatant. Glad the guy spoke up and went public about it but… holy fuck.

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      "We've burned down buildings for no reasons, which is violating the international law, of course," he told CBS News. "…And we used human shields as protection."

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      Remember, "just following orders" isn't a defense when being tried for war crimes

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        "We've burned down buildings for no reasons, which is violating the international law, of course," he told CBS News. "…And we used human shields as protection."

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        I'm glad that they are speaking out, but why didn't they say no? He says they tried to talk their commanding officer out of it, but then they just did it anyway? If they knew it was wrong, why didn't they do it? Again, glad they're speaking out, but it's so weird that they did it in the first place.

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          I'm glad that they are speaking out, but why didn't they say no? He says they tried to talk their commanding officer out of it, but then they just did it anyway? If they knew it was wrong, why didn't they do it? Again, glad they're speaking out, but it's so weird that they did it in the first place.

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          Unfortunately, the IDF using Palestinians as Human Shields is a long standing practice. One of the many ways they attack and terrorize Palestinian civilians

          • IDF uses Human Shields since at least 1967

          • Including Children (2013 Report)

          • Palestinian children face unrelenting genocide, displacement, and systematic abuse throughout 2024

          • Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds 2024

          • Breaking The Silence - Testimonies from IDF Veterans

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            I'm glad that they are speaking out, but why didn't they say no? He says they tried to talk their commanding officer out of it, but then they just did it anyway? If they knew it was wrong, why didn't they do it? Again, glad they're speaking out, but it's so weird that they did it in the first place.

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            I have jewish friends (they weren’t even israelis) who refused to pledge allegiance to israel, their families ostracized them and told them to kill themselves in order to redeem the family’s honor…

            These people are deep inside a cult, their brains are sick and malfunctioning.

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              I have jewish friends (they weren’t even israelis) who refused to pledge allegiance to israel, their families ostracized them and told them to kill themselves in order to redeem the family’s honor…

              These people are deep inside a cult, their brains are sick and malfunctioning.

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              The Israelism Documentary showed me a lot about how ingrained Israel has made itself in the lives of Jewish Americans as both an identity and a support structure. It's a lot more insidious than I first thought

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                Unfortunately, the IDF using Palestinians as Human Shields is a long standing practice. One of the many ways they attack and terrorize Palestinian civilians

                • IDF uses Human Shields since at least 1967

                • Including Children (2013 Report)

                • Palestinian children face unrelenting genocide, displacement, and systematic abuse throughout 2024

                • Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds 2024

                • Breaking The Silence - Testimonies from IDF Veterans

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                Yea, I was definitely not denying it. Just wondering why someone who is morally against it would do it in the first place.

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                  I have jewish friends (they weren’t even israelis) who refused to pledge allegiance to israel, their families ostracized them and told them to kill themselves in order to redeem the family’s honor…

                  These people are deep inside a cult, their brains are sick and malfunctioning.

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                  Yea, but these people are saying they are morally against it but still did it when push came to shove. I'm glad they're speaking about it, but it's so weird to be all "I'm morally scarred" about an action you did not have to take and knew was wrong at the time. Again, VERY glad they're speaking out, but I wish they just didn't do it in the first place.

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                    The Israelism Documentary showed me a lot about how ingrained Israel has made itself in the lives of Jewish Americans as both an identity and a support structure. It's a lot more insidious than I first thought

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                    Thank you for the recommendation, I haven’t seen this documentary yet and will probably watch it really soon.

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                      Yea, I was definitely not denying it. Just wondering why someone who is morally against it would do it in the first place.

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                      Oh you didn't come off like you were denying it at all, I just wanted to provide more context that I knew about.

                      As to why, fundamentally it's due to supremacy and dehumanization. Zionism has dehumanized Palestinians since the start, and it's been ongoing for generations. They see Palestinians as sub-human savages, and with that mentality it's easy for them to legitimize all of the inhumane violence we see. This kind of dehumanization happened with the colonization of the Americas too, but since Zionism is only about a hundred of years, give or take, instead of the hundreds back in the 1500s-1700s, we are seeing it take place live with modern technology for the first time. Settler Colonialism needs to go. It has no place.

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                        Oh you didn't come off like you were denying it at all, I just wanted to provide more context that I knew about.

                        As to why, fundamentally it's due to supremacy and dehumanization. Zionism has dehumanized Palestinians since the start, and it's been ongoing for generations. They see Palestinians as sub-human savages, and with that mentality it's easy for them to legitimize all of the inhumane violence we see. This kind of dehumanization happened with the colonization of the Americas too, but since Zionism is only about a hundred of years, give or take, instead of the hundreds back in the 1500s-1700s, we are seeing it take place live with modern technology for the first time. Settler Colonialism needs to go. It has no place.

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                        Agreed. Thank you for sharing the context.

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                          "We've burned down buildings for no reasons, which is violating the international law, of course," he told CBS News. "…And we used human shields as protection."

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                          "I was just obeying orders."

                          Under a similar context, was deemed as not a valid argument to shake guilt.

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