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Do you feel sad for people born today?

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    I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

    "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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    I don’t. We all have to deal with the pain of existence.

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    • sanctus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      How can we say the future is fucked when all climate scientists are still begging us to take action and saying every little bit will help? We can't. I know its glum. But you still can't tell kids they are fucked. They aren't yet, and right up until all climate scientists commit suicide from the insanity of this whole circus I will still be on the side of hope. Its not delusional. What else have we got to do? Only the wretched accept a bleak tomorrow. And I am still refusing.

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      Most climate scientists would agree that we're fucked, actually. But most climate scientists would also say that every little bit helps. It's not a binary switch. You and I? Our children and our children's children? They will not live in a safe, sane, or comfortable world. That shipped sailed a couple of years back. But you're right, there is hope. If every corporation and state stopped extracting right now, then in about a 100 years, with a lot of hard work and dedication and an international effort like never before seen, we will return to normal.

      So yeah, teaching kids to be good people, and good stewards of the planet is an extremely important and necessary thing right now, but so is teaching them to grow their own food, mend their own clothing, build things, build community. Because that's the only way we get through.

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        not like it matters. it can still apply on a smaller scale

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        You out the gate accuse us of being bad people knowing nothing. Why?

        I have like 1m cad so like a small percentage of power in this world lmao

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          I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

          "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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          no im jealous because i miss screaming and shitting and puking constantly

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            Specifically, MILFs

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            DILFs too, though

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              I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

              "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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              I choose not to. I can choose to be hopeful for the future without being unrealistic. I can see intrinsic value in human life and the human experience even knowing that every single one of us will die at some point, some peacefully, some during suffering. The moment of death doesn't have to define one's life. Even a baby who lives for six hours has spent infinitely more time living than dying. Would you be so nihilistic as to erase that life, just because it was short?

              Your philosophy is valid; it's not necessarily correct.
              Starting from the assumption that it is denies you the opportunity to see things from a different perspective.

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              • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                it’s happened before right?

                not what we've done to the ecosystem. we're in entirely uncharted territory.

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                That's true, at least in our tenure as a species. We can project where it's going pretty well, though, and assuming your kids aren't in a Dhaka slum they'll be 'ight, if deprived of the opportunity to ever see coral reefs and with higher bills and taxes to compensate for the weather.

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                  That's true, at least in our tenure as a species. We can project where it's going pretty well, though, and assuming your kids aren't in a Dhaka slum they'll be 'ight, if deprived of the opportunity to ever see coral reefs and with higher bills and taxes to compensate for the weather.

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                  and assuming your kids aren’t in a Dhaka slum they’ll be 'ight

                  you're an optimist.

                  we're all going to cook, it's just a matter of how long it'll take to catch up to you.

                  we're gonna cook because some fucks said "I don't care, I want more money."

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                    I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

                    "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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                    Windows 11 laptops requires a webcam. The internet now wants selfies to prove that you are a certain age.

                    The kids now will grow up thinking that this is normal. That is what I am worried about.

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                      I'm in canada so about 500k per apartment here on vancouver island

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                        Word. Just because America is on a downward slide everyone acting like these are the worst times ever. LOL. The people need some history classes.

                        When I was a kid, cancer was basically a death sentence. AIDS certainly was! Some of the tech I've experienced blows my mind. Wondering if my wife and I had finally caught COVID (we did 🤬), so I busted out the free laboratory kit I got in the mail. That was work for a hospital lab, and you were going to wait a few days. Sliced the side of my finger off, and they grew it back. I could go on forever.

                        In the movie Armageddon (1998), talking about the age of the space station being 10-years old, "Most of us don't drive cars that old." A 10-yo car was trash, common knowledge. My truck is a 2004 and my wife's car is a 2014. Both run great. And I could go on for ages as to how much safer vehicles are. None of the things we take for granted like ABS, air bags, crumple zones, none of that existed when I was a kid. Hell, some cars didn't have safety glass!

                        People will next tell me that global warming is a new threat that will kill us all. Friends and neighbors, we already survived an ice age.

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                        Once you can't feed yourself, your children are dying, and the authorities are actively trying to kill you, how much worse of a times do you want!? People are being sent to concentration camps. The middle class is disappearing. Everyone not a billionaire is suffering.

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                        • stinky@redlemmy.comS [email protected]

                          Abortions should be legal at any term

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                          I have a 6 year old, is that too late? 🙂

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                            Windows 11 laptops requires a webcam. The internet now wants selfies to prove that you are a certain age.

                            The kids now will grow up thinking that this is normal. That is what I am worried about.

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                            Can I get a source?

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                              I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

                              "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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                              I think we are in for a very hard 30-50 years politically and economically speaking.

                              Current young people are already poorer than their parents, and that's not getting solved. Next generation will be poorer and we will have to factor in a lot of tensions and unsolved problems that I think will derive in violence, a lot of violence. And very heavy societal collapses.

                              Maybe I'm dramatic, but the other day I thought that's not unlikely that a "western" country will experience a famine in the next 50 years. Many don't produce enough food for themselves by far, the moment they don't have the money or the possibility to buy it from other countries... Starvation it is. And with a growing population getting near the 10 billion humans, a few years of globally bad crops could devastate humankind.

                              So, yep, I think kids today are in for really hard times.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

                                "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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                                Absolutely yes I feel bad for them.

                                Some people will say that now is the best time to be alive, but I think we have hit our peak and are facing an ugly drop-off. Climate change is a big one, but I think that technology is quickly becoming detrimental to the average person because it is leading to a consolidation of wealth and power in the hands of fewer and fewer.

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                                  I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

                                  "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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                                  All the time. I fake being happy for the parents and on the inside think What the fuck is wrong with you?

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                                    Climate change is the only true existential reason to feel that way.

                                    Everything else is just over focusing on a short term dip. On average things are getting better over the long term. The British Empire collapsed, and so will the American one, and the world will keep on turning and progressing.

                                    Hell kids born these days may have legitimate cures for most forms of cancer by the time they're old. We won't.

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                                    I'd argue that technology also, because it is consolidating wealth and power in the hands of fewer and fewer. This creates a positive feedback loop to further entrench their power. They have widened the divide and pulled up the ladder.

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                                      I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

                                      "Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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                                      More grist for the mill.

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                                        I'm sorry, but you are wildly naive. You've seen 22 years of this planet. You have no idea how good you and your potential offspring actually have it.

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                                        I've got a few decades on the other commenter. We are making gains in some areas: medicine, entertainment, and convenience. It is definitely true that our lives are much better in certain ways.

                                        But then there's shit that is also going very wrong. Runaway inflation (particularly on housing, healthcare, education, and childcare), loss of community / loneliness epidemic, increasing wealth inequality, increasing political polarization / extremism, climate change, and societal stratification caused by technology. The last 2 in particular are "big ticket" hazards that I don't see reversing course and will only continue to get worse.

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          The rich would never allow the poors to be taken care of in such a way. You're not thinking like a true capitalist !

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                                          Ever see the movie "Elysium". It will be like that. They'll have machines that can do the medical treatments and still deny it to the masses.

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