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  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

    I didn't dislike it, but it didn't live up to my hopes after all I'd heard about it.

    I don't regret having bought and played the game, but I never bothered to go back and fully finish all the side missions.

    I do think that the edginess is kinda part of the cyberpunk genre. I can't beat up on them for that.

    • It has high production values, a lot of modeling and texturing and such --- I'm amazed how much money they have to have sunk into assets only to use them briefly --- but the actual core gameplay didn't grab me the way, oh, Halo did when it first came out and I played it. Night City is painstakingly created in tremendous detail, but end of the day, the point is to create the backdrop for gameplay, and I feel like they spent a disproportionate making of resources on that.

    • The combat is pretty, but for all of the work that went into various systems, I didn't play it much differently from the way I would another shooter.

    • I also had been expecting something more like a Bethesda RPG, and got something more Grand Theft Auto-ish with a beefed up skill tree.

    • I wasn't that impressed with the braindance stuff from a pure gameplay standpoint --- it's kinda "hunt for the hidden object" stuff --- but I do think that it was original and it served as a useful justification to show "flashbacks" to earlier events.

    • Obtaining and managing clothing is a significant chunk of game and content, but I almost never actually see the main character, so the clothing doesn't have much impact. Maybe if there were a third person camera mode or frequent reflections or frequent looking through a camera or something.

    • Having played some games like Saboteur and Grand Theft Auto, I kind of expected the differences between autos to matter more, given how much work went into creating them and all, but from a mission standpoint, they're surprisingly interchangeable. A couple missions are easier with some, but a lot of the vehicles don't really have that much gameplay point.

    • Johnny Silverhand is a major part of the game, but wasn't really a character that I found very plausible or super interesting. I dunno, maybe if I had been into the punk music scene, it'd be different. I felt like they really were trying to shoehorn a punk band leader into the role. That being said, I did think that most characters were pretty solid.

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    ChatGPT-ass emdashes with spaces on either side

    (I know there’s three dashes I’m sorry hahaha)

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      Mine's that people who insist on correcting others grammar on internet forums are little shits who peaked in grade six as a teacher's pet and get off on exerting their "superiority" on others.

      Fuck you "less than" is just better than "fewer then." Think I'm wrong, tell me what these symbols are called "< >" that's what I thought loser.

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      Capitalism is going to kill us all if we don’t kill it first.

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      • owenfromcanada@lemmy.caO [email protected]

        For some reason, people using the contraction "everyday" as a noun drives me insane. "Everyday" is an adjective (e.g., an everyday activity), "every day" is the noun (e.g., I do this activity every day).

        It doesn't matter. It doesn't.

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        If anything, "everyday" in "I do this thing everyday" would be an adverb. (not that that makes it less wrong)

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        • almacca@aussie.zoneA [email protected]

          That bugs me as well. Another is 'off of'. There is no use case when 'off' isn't sufficient.

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          I often hear that in "based off of" where "on" makes even more sense. The thing that it's based on forms the basis or foundation that the new thing is built upon, so you're basing it on that.

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          • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

            Patching a live service game so that it can run "offline" isn't a small task, the cost of which will inevitably be pushed onto the players. I feel like SKG sorta trivializes the amount of work that is needed to make this happen when they reference homebrew server emulators for previously-shutdown MMOs, as those custom servers take a LOT of effort from the communities that maintain them.

            Publishers of live service games will likely increase the costs of subscription fees/microtransactions in order to fund the necessary conversions once a game reaches end-of-life. This creates a new problem for developers/publishers which, to the best of my knowledge, SKG doesn't suggest a solution to. I don't see a scenario in which raising development costs (especially at a time when video games are already more expensive) is beneficial to the industry as a whole.

            I don't think this is a reason to be against SKG as a whole, though. Especially not to the "eat my entire ass" level. But it is a nitpick that I have with it.

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            Why does the game need to be patched to run offline? Why not just release the server code/binary?

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            • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

              I didn't dislike it, but it didn't live up to my hopes after all I'd heard about it.

              I don't regret having bought and played the game, but I never bothered to go back and fully finish all the side missions.

              I do think that the edginess is kinda part of the cyberpunk genre. I can't beat up on them for that.

              • It has high production values, a lot of modeling and texturing and such --- I'm amazed how much money they have to have sunk into assets only to use them briefly --- but the actual core gameplay didn't grab me the way, oh, Halo did when it first came out and I played it. Night City is painstakingly created in tremendous detail, but end of the day, the point is to create the backdrop for gameplay, and I feel like they spent a disproportionate making of resources on that.

              • The combat is pretty, but for all of the work that went into various systems, I didn't play it much differently from the way I would another shooter.

              • I also had been expecting something more like a Bethesda RPG, and got something more Grand Theft Auto-ish with a beefed up skill tree.

              • I wasn't that impressed with the braindance stuff from a pure gameplay standpoint --- it's kinda "hunt for the hidden object" stuff --- but I do think that it was original and it served as a useful justification to show "flashbacks" to earlier events.

              • Obtaining and managing clothing is a significant chunk of game and content, but I almost never actually see the main character, so the clothing doesn't have much impact. Maybe if there were a third person camera mode or frequent reflections or frequent looking through a camera or something.

              • Having played some games like Saboteur and Grand Theft Auto, I kind of expected the differences between autos to matter more, given how much work went into creating them and all, but from a mission standpoint, they're surprisingly interchangeable. A couple missions are easier with some, but a lot of the vehicles don't really have that much gameplay point.

              • Johnny Silverhand is a major part of the game, but wasn't really a character that I found very plausible or super interesting. I dunno, maybe if I had been into the punk music scene, it'd be different. I felt like they really were trying to shoehorn a punk band leader into the role. That being said, I did think that most characters were pretty solid.

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              Lots of good points!

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                The mass noun 'e-mail', like 'mail', does not get an 's' when speaking about more volume.

                It's as gauche as "y'all" in wedding vows, and leaves a similar impression.

                Stay tuned, and we can talk about used-car lot jargon like "the ask" and "the spend" next!

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                Just thinking about the email one...

                I would say one email, two emails... but a lot of email. If it's an unquantified number then I drop the 's'.

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                  Why does the game need to be patched to run offline? Why not just release the server code/binary?

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                  Because the game will still attempt to connect to the real servers, unless otherwise modified.

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                  • executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                    I often hear that in "based off of" where "on" makes even more sense. The thing that it's based on forms the basis or foundation that the new thing is built upon, so you're basing it on that.

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                    :eyetwitch:

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                      Mine's that people who insist on correcting others grammar on internet forums are little shits who peaked in grade six as a teacher's pet and get off on exerting their "superiority" on others.

                      Fuck you "less than" is just better than "fewer then." Think I'm wrong, tell me what these symbols are called "< >" that's what I thought loser.

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                      People who can't stand being corrected. Instead of learning and improving, they feel diminished and hateful.

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                      • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                        Because the game will still attempt to connect to the real servers, unless otherwise modified.

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                        I think... a URL shouldn't be that hard to program for. At the laziest, you just let it check for an .ini or something.

                        I mean, a proper server browser would be nice, but I'd much rather the game just not be shelved permanently.

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                          Mine's that people who insist on correcting others grammar on internet forums are little shits who peaked in grade six as a teacher's pet and get off on exerting their "superiority" on others.

                          Fuck you "less than" is just better than "fewer then." Think I'm wrong, tell me what these symbols are called "< >" that's what I thought loser.

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                          Oh god I almost don't want to say this in this environment...

                          Techy people aren't the most intelligent in other/all areas just because they have some technical expertise.

                          I have worked with, and interacted with people, all my life who are technically very intelligent in some specific way, and even been one of these people... Who thinks that one area of proficiency grants them unearned respect in other areas.

                          Eg." I'm great at maths therefore I'm logically infallible". Or "I'm an engineer, so I know exactly how society should function best"." I'm a doctor so my every opinion on everything is more important than yours".

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                          • wagesj45@fedia.ioW [email protected]

                            The Snyder Superman movies were good, actually.

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                            Broooo what the fuxkkkk

                            Are you lobotomised???

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                              The prequels have a solid narrative throughout, the sequels don't even have a consistent narrative in a single movie.

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                              This is an insane take.

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                                The prequels have a solid narrative throughout, the sequels don't even have a consistent narrative in a single movie.

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                                Uh huh, sure but that doesn’t change anything. They are still really bad movies.

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                                  Oh god I almost don't want to say this in this environment...

                                  Techy people aren't the most intelligent in other/all areas just because they have some technical expertise.

                                  I have worked with, and interacted with people, all my life who are technically very intelligent in some specific way, and even been one of these people... Who thinks that one area of proficiency grants them unearned respect in other areas.

                                  Eg." I'm great at maths therefore I'm logically infallible". Or "I'm an engineer, so I know exactly how society should function best"." I'm a doctor so my every opinion on everything is more important than yours".

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                                  Ben Carson is the epitome of this for me - absolutely brilliant neurosurgeon, ate up every bit of the MAGA party line.

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                                    Land is still zoned. If it can only be used for farming due to the zoning, then its not as desirable to most people and therefore has a lower lease rate from the government.

                                    If the government decides to change the use of that land, the rental price would increase and then the farmer would likely give it up and lease something else.

                                    It's not really that different from the current property tax reductions that apply to farms.

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                                    Ah, good plan. I didn't think of that. I come from a country which doesn't have zoning. (Planing applications are all taken on a case by case basis here.)

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                                      I feel like that is the absolute bare minimum change that you could do to a game to let it continue to function. Think of all the code changes, bug fixes, optimisations and such that get done in even one patch release. However, the organiser of SKG has released a video debunking all of Thor's claims, including the idea that it would require live service games to be redeveloped into offline ones. He also doesn't think it should retroactively apply to existing games. So it would be much easier for a new game to be coded from the start to be able to be disconnected. Here's the relevant section of his video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HIfRLujXtUo&t=2228s

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                                      • quazatron@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                                        People who can't stand being corrected. Instead of learning and improving, they feel diminished and hateful.

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                                        Knowing the rules and knowing when they're needed are two different things. A racecar driver doesn't need to floor it on their way home. Likewise a conversation doesn't need to employ strict grammatical compliance, we're talking not drafting a treatise. At the end of the day people who get upset with incorrect grammar do so because it's an ick or theirs. They then proceed to make that everyone else's problem. You're not learned and scholarly for being pedantic.

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                                        • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

                                          don’t have to be related by blood to be family.

                                          But is family if blood related.

                                          Strongest emotional bonds don't necessarily mean anything positive. Most time spent only applies to immediate family, like parents. Outside that you likely do spend more time with coworkers or classmates.

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                                          Sperm donor kids aren't all one big family. Family is a social construct.

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