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And the thing i don’t think Americans have accepted yet… there’s no going back.

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    And the thing i don’t think Americans have accepted yet… there’s no going back. They can vote the democrats back in next year. But we - their traditional allies will never be there for them again.

    America will forever be isolated as untrustworthy.

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    Three times they were given the choice, twice he won and the other time he still had a sizable base of support - even after fucking covid up.

    From now on you just have to be ready for anti-democracy, pro-imperialist, incompetency to take control of the US. They might not even allow a democrat to ever take over the executive branch ever again.

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      And the thing i don’t think Americans have accepted yet… there’s no going back. They can vote the democrats back in next year. But we - their traditional allies will never be there for them again.

      America will forever be isolated as untrustworthy.

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      This is one of the weirdest things anti-maga types have begun spewing.

      Germany started two world wars and they have not been 'forever isolated as untrustworthy'. I can assure you, the world is laughing at the US and Trump and a lot of countries and groups are angry.

      If you stuck a half decent person in the chair and apologised, retracted tarrifs etc, I'm sure it'd all blow over in a few years.

      Now your internet racially motivated Civil war? Yeah I don't think you'll get out of that one

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        This is one of the weirdest things anti-maga types have begun spewing.

        Germany started two world wars and they have not been 'forever isolated as untrustworthy'. I can assure you, the world is laughing at the US and Trump and a lot of countries and groups are angry.

        If you stuck a half decent person in the chair and apologised, retracted tarrifs etc, I'm sure it'd all blow over in a few years.

        Now your internet racially motivated Civil war? Yeah I don't think you'll get out of that one

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        Yeah, you're probably right. But a lot of trust will still be gone, it's hard to make serious commitments with a country that has a history of ripping them up.

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          If a proper revolution happens US will be taken back for sure. The problem is that Americans are way too comfortable for any major change and have been for a long time.

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          I've been seeing "comfortable" a lot, but I think honestly it's less comfort and more confusion. I know it's popular to portray us all as lazy, drinking our Big Gulp slushies and watching sportsball, but that's not the whole picture.

          We all know it sucks, we might call our reps, our friends might go wave some signs...but ultimately we're culturally unaccustomed to organization, and that part cripples meaningful resistance. As the commenter below me stated, "lack of civic culture" and "hyper individualism" nails it.

          Okay, we all want different things, we all struggle at wildly different randomized shifts because most of us are one missed paycheck away from disaster, how do we know who our friends are? No no, not the "Yeah man, that sucks lol idk." friends, the ones who will actually fight with you?

          Consequently, we're suffering a massive lonliness epidemic where a lot of people not only have very little civic ties, they don't even have a network of reliable companionship! A lot of this is simply thanks to suburban dominance and nowhere left to meet that's not charging admission.

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            This is one of the weirdest things anti-maga types have begun spewing.

            Germany started two world wars and they have not been 'forever isolated as untrustworthy'. I can assure you, the world is laughing at the US and Trump and a lot of countries and groups are angry.

            If you stuck a half decent person in the chair and apologised, retracted tarrifs etc, I'm sure it'd all blow over in a few years.

            Now your internet racially motivated Civil war? Yeah I don't think you'll get out of that one

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            It took Germany decades and at least couple of generations to shake off the lable, and in a lot of cases they still do. Obviously it's not forever, but decades might as well be forever if you're trying to open an international business or whatever

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              I've been seeing "comfortable" a lot, but I think honestly it's less comfort and more confusion. I know it's popular to portray us all as lazy, drinking our Big Gulp slushies and watching sportsball, but that's not the whole picture.

              We all know it sucks, we might call our reps, our friends might go wave some signs...but ultimately we're culturally unaccustomed to organization, and that part cripples meaningful resistance. As the commenter below me stated, "lack of civic culture" and "hyper individualism" nails it.

              Okay, we all want different things, we all struggle at wildly different randomized shifts because most of us are one missed paycheck away from disaster, how do we know who our friends are? No no, not the "Yeah man, that sucks lol idk." friends, the ones who will actually fight with you?

              Consequently, we're suffering a massive lonliness epidemic where a lot of people not only have very little civic ties, they don't even have a network of reliable companionship! A lot of this is simply thanks to suburban dominance and nowhere left to meet that's not charging admission.

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              I don't think that's particularly a take on americans being lazy but a general issue where developed world populations tend to be more obedient because of they're stuck in the zone of comfortable compliance.

              China is by far the most extreme example of this. It's a complete autocracy but also the economy is great and consumerism rampant.

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                This is one of the weirdest things anti-maga types have begun spewing.

                Germany started two world wars and they have not been 'forever isolated as untrustworthy'. I can assure you, the world is laughing at the US and Trump and a lot of countries and groups are angry.

                If you stuck a half decent person in the chair and apologised, retracted tarrifs etc, I'm sure it'd all blow over in a few years.

                Now your internet racially motivated Civil war? Yeah I don't think you'll get out of that one

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                If something takes more than 4 years it gets lumped into "never" territory because no political party wants the next party to get credit for their work.

                Guarantee it took Germany more than 4 years to recover their reputation (and even then, not enough to do well in Eurovision).

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                  If something takes more than 4 years it gets lumped into "never" territory because no political party wants the next party to get credit for their work.

                  Guarantee it took Germany more than 4 years to recover their reputation (and even then, not enough to do well in Eurovision).

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                  Yeah... Okay then.

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                    This is one of the weirdest things anti-maga types have begun spewing.

                    Germany started two world wars and they have not been 'forever isolated as untrustworthy'. I can assure you, the world is laughing at the US and Trump and a lot of countries and groups are angry.

                    If you stuck a half decent person in the chair and apologised, retracted tarrifs etc, I'm sure it'd all blow over in a few years.

                    Now your internet racially motivated Civil war? Yeah I don't think you'll get out of that one

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                    The problem other country have is they are owed and they owe people USD. Its been the reserve currency since before the US stole Europe's gold.

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                      The so called president doesn't care about the constitution, judges or laws. He gets away with it.

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                      And when you're the US president, they let you do it

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