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    Toxic meme template but whatever

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      Toxic meme template but whatever

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      ROKO'S BASILISK

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        1. Please sir may I have some more pixels?
        2. Yup Climate Change should be the number one priority for every country on the planet!
        3. AGI is a way different idea than the LLMs we have today and I don’t think we should discard it too haphazardly.

        The threat stemming from AGI doesn’t rely on linearly scaling intelligence, just imagine one human that can think faster than you by the same margin that a computer can do pretty much anything faster than you + it’s directly connected to the internet. As long as one grants the assumption of speed and superior programming skills, I believe one must acknowledge that a certain level of risk arises.

        Also you don’t need to ascribe it any anthropomorphic intentions or even consciousness. The argument stands that if what it is going to do, be it by an errant instruction/misunderstanding or mischief, is not what a morally sane person would consider to be in our best interests, how are we going to stop it from performing said undesirable task if it’s as smart/smarter, faster and better at programming and networking than us?

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          Incels' basilisk

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            I miss when the weird crossover between techbros and fascists was fringe instead of throwing out Nazi salutes on national television.

            A simpler time.

            Or maybe that's just nostalgia speaking.

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              If your jokes are three lines long with tiny font to fit the format, they are not jokes anymore.

              Or maybe they are. I don't know. I can't read them.

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                While I believe, that we are still quite far away from a generic artificial intelligence, the pattern reproduction automatons known as LLMs we have right now already are a threat. Not on the scale of global warming, but a big social threat. Even the quite flawed implementations we see in the market at the moment, make it hard for people to get entry level jobs. And without entry level jobs, where to senior positions come from?

                Jobs in service areas are under pressure as well as creative jobs we believed to be safe. In the end the question might be if the human or the computer is cheaper.

                I find this all very short-sighted, but alas this hasn't stopped humanity so far. Should AI stay around even only as it is right now, politics have to address to issues that arise from it - and they won't without big pressure. We can all see how well social solutions to problems are doing at the moment....

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                  1. Please sir may I have some more pixels?
                  2. Yup Climate Change should be the number one priority for every country on the planet!
                  3. AGI is a way different idea than the LLMs we have today and I don’t think we should discard it too haphazardly.

                  The threat stemming from AGI doesn’t rely on linearly scaling intelligence, just imagine one human that can think faster than you by the same margin that a computer can do pretty much anything faster than you + it’s directly connected to the internet. As long as one grants the assumption of speed and superior programming skills, I believe one must acknowledge that a certain level of risk arises.

                  Also you don’t need to ascribe it any anthropomorphic intentions or even consciousness. The argument stands that if what it is going to do, be it by an errant instruction/misunderstanding or mischief, is not what a morally sane person would consider to be in our best interests, how are we going to stop it from performing said undesirable task if it’s as smart/smarter, faster and better at programming and networking than us?

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                  pixels:

                  the virgin "agi existential risk"

                  • programmer LARP fantasy that makes coding the signle most important skill for saving humanity
                  • entirely based on thought experiments
                  • zero evidence
                  • assumes that there's this vaguely defined concept known as "intelligence" that can be linearly increased as if it were as matehmatical quantity
                  • projects an anthropomorphic drive toward control and power onto algorithms that just do statistics to spit out words; colonialist self-report
                  • sponsored by billionares who want to make thrie tachnology seem more important than it is
                  • blackmails you from the future using faulty logic; doesn't actally make any sense
                  • "oh no, i guess we have to build the Doom Machine now. i guess the course of technological progress is inevitable, oh well"

                  the chad global warming

                  • incomprehensibly complex and interconnected polycrisis
                  • reveals deep-rooted flaws with the dominant politico-economic paradigm; demands a fundamental shift of human value systems by its sheer physical existence
                  • verified by the entire scientific community
                  • billionares don't want you to think about it because it is too scary
                  • resist ideological simplification
                  • will actually kill you
                  • doesn't even need intelligence to threaten humanity's survival
                  • divine retribution for fossil capital's greed and wanton exploration of the natural world
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                    Now with more pixels

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                      resists ideological simplification

                      divine retribution for fossil capital’s greed and wanton exploitation of the natural world

                      I agree with the point of the meme, but come on

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                        While I believe, that we are still quite far away from a generic artificial intelligence, the pattern reproduction automatons known as LLMs we have right now already are a threat. Not on the scale of global warming, but a big social threat. Even the quite flawed implementations we see in the market at the moment, make it hard for people to get entry level jobs. And without entry level jobs, where to senior positions come from?

                        Jobs in service areas are under pressure as well as creative jobs we believed to be safe. In the end the question might be if the human or the computer is cheaper.

                        I find this all very short-sighted, but alas this hasn't stopped humanity so far. Should AI stay around even only as it is right now, politics have to address to issues that arise from it - and they won't without big pressure. We can all see how well social solutions to problems are doing at the moment....

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                        I believe, that we are still quite far away from a generic artificial intelligence

                        Well, that's one of those "nobody anywhere has any idea" things. But I have to say, the more attention and money we spend on LLMs, the longer it will probably take to make any useful generic intelligence. No idea if that's good or bad either.

                        Even the quite flawed implementations we see in the market at the moment, make it hard for people to get entry level jobs.

                        Those jobs are being destroyed by government policy. The only thing LLMs are currently able to do is spam, it can't replace people on any other activity.

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                          I miss when the weird crossover between techbros and fascists was fringe instead of throwing out Nazi salutes on national television.

                          A simpler time.

                          Or maybe that's just nostalgia speaking.

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                          The time the left wasn't that pressured to do something

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                            1. Please sir may I have some more pixels?
                            2. Yup Climate Change should be the number one priority for every country on the planet!
                            3. AGI is a way different idea than the LLMs we have today and I don’t think we should discard it too haphazardly.

                            The threat stemming from AGI doesn’t rely on linearly scaling intelligence, just imagine one human that can think faster than you by the same margin that a computer can do pretty much anything faster than you + it’s directly connected to the internet. As long as one grants the assumption of speed and superior programming skills, I believe one must acknowledge that a certain level of risk arises.

                            Also you don’t need to ascribe it any anthropomorphic intentions or even consciousness. The argument stands that if what it is going to do, be it by an errant instruction/misunderstanding or mischief, is not what a morally sane person would consider to be in our best interests, how are we going to stop it from performing said undesirable task if it’s as smart/smarter, faster and better at programming and networking than us?

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                            Agi is a threat only in ways being crushed by the weight of a million kittens is a threat for me personally.

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                              ROKO'S BASILISK

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                              No but see it's not pascals wager because i made it stupider, added more baseless assumptions, and somehow made it live even more exclusively in my fuvking imagination.

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                                While I believe, that we are still quite far away from a generic artificial intelligence, the pattern reproduction automatons known as LLMs we have right now already are a threat. Not on the scale of global warming, but a big social threat. Even the quite flawed implementations we see in the market at the moment, make it hard for people to get entry level jobs. And without entry level jobs, where to senior positions come from?

                                Jobs in service areas are under pressure as well as creative jobs we believed to be safe. In the end the question might be if the human or the computer is cheaper.

                                I find this all very short-sighted, but alas this hasn't stopped humanity so far. Should AI stay around even only as it is right now, politics have to address to issues that arise from it - and they won't without big pressure. We can all see how well social solutions to problems are doing at the moment....

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                                They aren't a threat. The system that manages them (capitalism) is a threat, and has been emboldened by this rampant fairytale bullshit.

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