Long Island man wearing 9kg-metal necklace dies after being sucked into MRI machine
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yeah what annoyed me was the Lady asking to just turn it off like you can just turn it off. i know she is desperate to undo her and her husband's stupidity but the article framing those quotes like the tech was incompetent is bad journalism.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You absolutely can turn it off - it's called quenching the magnet, and the tech absolutely should have been trained to do that in an emergency. There was no way in hell they were physically pulling him off. It's obviously that they did eventually, but the article doesn't say how long it took
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the answers to all your questions lie in the article you didn't read
Great! Could you kindly extract them to further our article-non-reading habits?
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As if my claustrophobia wasn't enough reason to irrationally strongly dislike the idea of needing to get an MRI again...
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Who cares about a moron who needs a 9kg necklace, how's the MRI machine?
It was for weight training
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It was for weight training
Yes, I remember the part in Pumping Iron, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, where he was using a 9kg necklace in preparation for his role in The Terminator.
This is stupid. He knew his wife was getting an MRI. He was an irresponsible ass and ignoramus. What was more important? His wife's MRI or his precious necklace weight training, at 61 no less?
And he had multiple heart attacks? The picture of health.
And now a MRI machine is out of order, how many people's tests have to be rescheduled for one 61 year old's fantasies of being a weight training badass? Your wife needed an MRI, put the high school jock nonsense aside for an hour or two.
"It was for weight training". Fuck me.
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Yes, I remember the part in Pumping Iron, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, where he was using a 9kg necklace in preparation for his role in The Terminator.
This is stupid. He knew his wife was getting an MRI. He was an irresponsible ass and ignoramus. What was more important? His wife's MRI or his precious necklace weight training, at 61 no less?
And he had multiple heart attacks? The picture of health.
And now a MRI machine is out of order, how many people's tests have to be rescheduled for one 61 year old's fantasies of being a weight training badass? Your wife needed an MRI, put the high school jock nonsense aside for an hour or two.
"It was for weight training". Fuck me.
Why are you being this way
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Nope, the detector is separate from the magnet - the magnet encircles the patient completely, and doesn't move. I'm sure the magnetic field is affected slightly by the rotating machinery, but that should be consistent and predictable, and would be accounted for in the imaging algorithms.
Yeah I considered the supercooled electromagnert couldn't possibly rotate, but I wasn't sure if it could be modulated to change field directions or something. Didn't seem very likely. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic's fault
The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He's not flexing his wealth or anything
His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.
Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn't seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn't catch the giant "necklace" he'd be wearing.
The "he wasn't supposed to be there" seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must've told him to walk into the room, it's not like he could hear through the door.
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100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
“That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.” -
Imagine the scene from her POV. She's claustrophobic and having a meltdown because of all the hums and bangs and then her husband comes running in only to get pulled into the machine she is already stuck inside of. He's screaming and can't get pulled free while she is being pushed even harder into the machine she so desparately wants free from - by her husband who is quickly suffocating to death
While you wrote an interesting narrative, if you read the article the story is nothing like this, and even from her point of view would have been nothing like this.
She had asked the nurse to call her husband to help her up from the table. She called out his name and he ran in while the machine was still going.
He was pulled into the machine and was freed eventually but suffered multiple heart attacks after being pulled off the machine. The heart attacks are what killed him in the end in a hospital bed far from the MRI machine. He definitely did not suffocate.
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the answers to all your questions lie in the article you didn't read
The article doesn't really answer much about the necklace though. I want to see a picture of it and understand why the fuck someone would wear it. Like "for weigh training" but what the fuck is he exercising on a random day in the hospital.
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Maybe lockable doors
Idk bc some of the articles seem to be contradicting but apparently the door had a lock and the deck opened it
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It's a fair cop
Society is to blame
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Can you convert that to tennis balls? I can't do this math on my own
The only units I understand are bananas or bald eagles. Please adjust accordingly
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Nah, let them stupids die. I don't want to risk non idiots lives for the chance of saving a moron.
I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what "non idiots" are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn't there always be a tech?
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Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.
She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.
This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don't want to lock everyone out in case there's an issue.
There is a lot of conflicting information in the articles im finding about this incident, from her shouting and him running in to him entering the room with the technician, and the technician knew about the chain and had commented on it.
Lmk if you need some examples, but theres a lot.
Im (cynically) inclined to believe that the hospital were the first to give statements and did a quick its-not-our-fault response. Then more people were interviewed. Ill always side with the working class (imo everyone who is not ruling class) rather than the corporations. And in the US the hospital is a corporation for sure.
There's some gross racial spin surrounding this too, see pic below. It was a weighted padlock steel necklace for his weight training, not whatever is implied by yahoo.
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Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic's fault
The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He's not flexing his wealth or anything
His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.
Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn't seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn't catch the giant "necklace" he'd be wearing.
The "he wasn't supposed to be there" seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must've told him to walk into the room, it's not like he could hear through the door.
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100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
“That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.”Thank the gods for you. I was reading these comments thinking I was insane.
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I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what "non idiots" are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn't there always be a tech?
wrote last edited by [email protected]No apology necessary.
There are emergencies that could happen anywhere, including in an MRI room. Dealing with emergencies, ease of ingress and egress is paramount.
The proposed solutions would hamper access to these rooms during emergencies, putting patients and techs in harms way (the non idiots), in the name of preventing a moron from giving themselves a Darwin award.
I think it would be a net negative, ie. more people would die/get hurt trying to make an idiot proof enclosure.
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Nope, the detector is separate from the magnet - the magnet encircles the patient completely, and doesn't move. I'm sure the magnetic field is affected slightly by the rotating machinery, but that should be consistent and predictable, and would be accounted for in the imaging algorithms.
Oh, TIL. Thanks!
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This is why our education system is under funded.
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Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.
She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.
This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don't want to lock everyone out in case there's an issue.
That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.
Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.
