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  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
    fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Feeds are a combination of communities into one, like multireddit or mastodon tags.

    Try it out!

    prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP O martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM povoq@slrpnk.netP nutomic@lemmy.mlN 8 Replies Last reply
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    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

      Feeds are a combination of communities into one, like multireddit or mastodon tags.

      Try it out!

      prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Reminder that Piefed's patreon is only at $18 a month. If you have the means, consider donating to the project to say thanks for all of the work and effort being put into it 🙂

      fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF wxnzxn@lemmy.mlW 2 Replies Last reply
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      • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

        Reminder that Piefed's patreon is only at $18 a month. If you have the means, consider donating to the project to say thanks for all of the work and effort being put into it 🙂

        fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        100%. Rimu, jollyroberts and andrew are all amazing people, providing both piefed and .social itself for free. They work very hard, and hell, the feeds PR was only created 4 days ago, and pushed today!

        Piefed and its devs deserve way more 😄

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        • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

          Feeds are a combination of communities into one, like multireddit or mastodon tags.

          Try it out!

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          #4

          This is great but I still don’t think it fixed the issue that both softwares have, what do you do about wanting to share the same content between multiple same named communities without spamming?

          I still really like the idea that communities can choose to federate with each other. You post to privacy at ML and LW and it shows as one post in both communities.

          rimu@piefed.socialR libertylizard@slrpnk.netL 2 Replies Last reply
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            This is great but I still don’t think it fixed the issue that both softwares have, what do you do about wanting to share the same content between multiple same named communities without spamming?

            I still really like the idea that communities can choose to federate with each other. You post to privacy at ML and LW and it shows as one post in both communities.

            rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            Yes, that is high on the agenda.

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            • O [email protected]

              This is great but I still don’t think it fixed the issue that both softwares have, what do you do about wanting to share the same content between multiple same named communities without spamming?

              I still really like the idea that communities can choose to federate with each other. You post to privacy at ML and LW and it shows as one post in both communities.

              libertylizard@slrpnk.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              This doesn’t appeal to me at all. The whole point of Lemmy is that I can avoid certain instances that have oppressive admins.

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              • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                Feeds are a combination of communities into one, like multireddit or mastodon tags.

                Try it out!

                martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM This user is from outside of this forum
                martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                Less goo!

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                • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                  Feeds are a combination of communities into one, like multireddit or mastodon tags.

                  Try it out!

                  povoq@slrpnk.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  This will reduce the discourse quality significantly as it will bring in more drive-by comments from people not subscribed to the specific communities in question.

                  I hope there will be some way for communities to opt-out from this or maybe better require them to opt-in.

                  rimu@piefed.socialR martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM maegul@lemmy.mlM openstars@piefed.socialO 4 Replies Last reply
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                  • martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                    Less goo!

                    fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    Fedipie.dbon1.com? We have the technology for it.

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                    • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                      Yes, that is high on the agenda.

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                      #10

                      Exciting! I’ll try to get my piefed running again then

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                      • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                        This will reduce the discourse quality significantly as it will bring in more drive-by comments from people not subscribed to the specific communities in question.

                        I hope there will be some way for communities to opt-out from this or maybe better require them to opt-in.

                        rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        Possibly. (Subscribing to a feed does actually subscribe you to all the communities in the feed. So technically they are not drive-by comments by non-members. But I see what you mean.)

                        Discoverability is a huge huge problem with all federated platforms and this will significantly alleviate that.

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                        • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                          This will reduce the discourse quality significantly as it will bring in more drive-by comments from people not subscribed to the specific communities in question.

                          I hope there will be some way for communities to opt-out from this or maybe better require them to opt-in.

                          martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          c/all is worse imo and with feeds you will at least have control over picking topics you're interested in unlike c/all. We should be focusing on opting out from c/all more as it causes far more damage and it's been that way for a long time unlike feeds on such a small platform that just got the feature implemented.

                          Also the opt-in would be a great way to KILL the entire feature that's been the most hyped up and requested feature across the entire threadiverse. BRUH

                          Imagine having all communities opted out from c/all by default. That would be stupid and make everything hard to access.

                          Opt-out on the other hand for public feeds specifically is something that I support. But then good luck having that supported on lemmy where almost all communities exist.

                          povoq@slrpnk.netP nutomic@lemmy.mlN 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                            Possibly. (Subscribing to a feed does actually subscribe you to all the communities in the feed. So technically they are not drive-by comments by non-members. But I see what you mean.)

                            Discoverability is a huge huge problem with all federated platforms and this will significantly alleviate that.

                            povoq@slrpnk.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            If I don't misunderstand then you can only add communities to these feeds that are already known to your instance, thus I don't really see how this solves the federated discoverability issues which is fundamentally due to instances not being aware of each other at all.

                            martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM rimu@piefed.socialR 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                              This will reduce the discourse quality significantly as it will bring in more drive-by comments from people not subscribed to the specific communities in question.

                              I hope there will be some way for communities to opt-out from this or maybe better require them to opt-in.

                              maegul@lemmy.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              I agree. Multi communities are great. But managing a community’s connectivity with such features makes a lot of sense too!

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                              • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                                Feeds are a combination of communities into one, like multireddit or mastodon tags.

                                Try it out!

                                nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                Neat, it federates. Seems to work similar to a normal community, so it should be easy to follow these feeds from Lemmy.

                                rimu@piefed.socialR fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

                                  Neat, it federates. Seems to work similar to a normal community, so it should be easy to follow these feeds from Lemmy.

                                  rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  While the actor is a Group and you can follow it, no posts are Announced. All the federation of posts is still driven by the individual communities within the feed. You'll need to modify Lemmy to add the logic of subscribing to the constituent communities when you receive an Accept.

                                  Also there are Add and Remove activities sent out whenever the feed owner manages the list of communities within which would need to be handled.

                                  Documentation still to come...

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                                  • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                                    If I don't misunderstand then you can only add communities to these feeds that are already known to your instance, thus I don't really see how this solves the federated discoverability issues which is fundamentally due to instances not being aware of each other at all.

                                    martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    Subscribing to the feed subscribes to communities in them = federation solved.

                                    On top of that the content is over there organised for you which is not something you otherwise have. You have discoverability solved in 2 ways. If someone has a good feed and you see a cool community missing you can message the owner for them to add it building the collection as a community.

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                                    • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL [email protected]

                                      This doesn’t appeal to me at all. The whole point of Lemmy is that I can avoid certain instances that have oppressive admins.

                                      openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      PieFed (and the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect iirc) can already do this, by blocking all users from the instance. It works much better than the Lemmy equivalent that would be better named as a community muting, since it still allows users to troll you in communities located on other instances.

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                                      • martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                                        c/all is worse imo and with feeds you will at least have control over picking topics you're interested in unlike c/all. We should be focusing on opting out from c/all more as it causes far more damage and it's been that way for a long time unlike feeds on such a small platform that just got the feature implemented.

                                        Also the opt-in would be a great way to KILL the entire feature that's been the most hyped up and requested feature across the entire threadiverse. BRUH

                                        Imagine having all communities opted out from c/all by default. That would be stupid and make everything hard to access.

                                        Opt-out on the other hand for public feeds specifically is something that I support. But then good luck having that supported on lemmy where almost all communities exist.

                                        povoq@slrpnk.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        Yes the All feed has the same problem, but posts need to be significantly more popular for them to even register in the All feed. Thus most small communities currently fly under the radar of the All feed, and if they do get a popular post it nearly always becomes a moderation nightmare.

                                        Hashtags on Mastodon have a similar problem, having given rise to the usually dreaded "Reply guy" issue.

                                        I think most people on Lemmy haven't really thought this through and what the implications of such a feature are once it becomes widely used.

                                        And no, the one that is doing the opt-in is the person creating the feed without asking the community that is being forcefully opted-in. Giving them the option to veto that is better than having them realize that they have been opted into something they don't agree with by being flooded with trolls and off-topic comments.

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                                        • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                                          If I don't misunderstand then you can only add communities to these feeds that are already known to your instance, thus I don't really see how this solves the federated discoverability issues which is fundamentally due to instances not being aware of each other at all.

                                          rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          The feed creator needs to know about the communities so they can type/paste the community address in, yeah. This feature takes the expert fediverse landscape knowledge contained in the heads of the terminally online and makes it available to more casual/new users.

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