Reddit sues AI company Anthropic for allegedly 'scraping' user comments to train chatbot Claude
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See, reddit should be happy with users deleting their own comments.
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Social media platform Reddit sued the artificial intelligence company Anthropic on Wednesday, alleging that it is illegally “scraping” the comments of millions of Reddit users to train its chatbot Claude.
Reddit claims that Anthropic has used automated bots to access Reddit’s content despite being asked not to do so, and “intentionally trained on the personal data of Reddit users without ever requesting their consent.”
Anthropic said in a statement that it disagreed with Reddit’s claims “and will defend ourselves vigorously.”
Reddit filed the lawsuit Wednesday in California Superior Court in San Francisco, where both companies are based.
“AI companies should not be allowed to scrape information and content from people without clear limitations on how they can use that data,” said Ben Lee, Reddit’s chief legal officer, in a statement Wednesday.
Reddit has previously entered licensing agreements with Google, OpenAI and other companies that are paying to be able to train their AI systems on the public commentary of Reddit’s more than 100 million daily users.
Those agreements “enable us to enforce meaningful protections for our users, including the right to delete your content, user privacy protections, and preventing users from being spammed using this content,” Lee said.
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I honestly think they have zero case here. The article just says stuff about reddit claiming that antrhopic doesn't have reddit users' consent and something about reddit being a le to defend their users.
However U.S. law puts the copyright in the hands of the creator of it, NOT Reddit. I guess Reddit can cut IPs off, but I really don't think they have a tort here.
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Social media platform Reddit sued the artificial intelligence company Anthropic on Wednesday, alleging that it is illegally “scraping” the comments of millions of Reddit users to train its chatbot Claude.
Reddit claims that Anthropic has used automated bots to access Reddit’s content despite being asked not to do so, and “intentionally trained on the personal data of Reddit users without ever requesting their consent.”
Anthropic said in a statement that it disagreed with Reddit’s claims “and will defend ourselves vigorously.”
Reddit filed the lawsuit Wednesday in California Superior Court in San Francisco, where both companies are based.
“AI companies should not be allowed to scrape information and content from people without clear limitations on how they can use that data,” said Ben Lee, Reddit’s chief legal officer, in a statement Wednesday.
Reddit has previously entered licensing agreements with Google, OpenAI and other companies that are paying to be able to train their AI systems on the public commentary of Reddit’s more than 100 million daily users.
Those agreements “enable us to enforce meaningful protections for our users, including the right to delete your content, user privacy protections, and preventing users from being spammed using this content,” Lee said.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Those fuckers aren't affronted my words are being used to train AI, they are just pissed about not getting paid for it. I hereby revoke all licenses and agreements with Reddit regarding my intellectual property. Furthermore, go fuck yourselves. With a rake. Sideways.
I have the honor to be your obedient servant
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Those agreements “enable us to enforce meaningful protections for our users, including the right to delete your content, user privacy protections, and preventing users from being spammed using this content,” Lee said.
OR
“Get paid”.
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I honestly think they have zero case here. The article just says stuff about reddit claiming that antrhopic doesn't have reddit users' consent and something about reddit being a le to defend their users.
However U.S. law puts the copyright in the hands of the creator of it, NOT Reddit. I guess Reddit can cut IPs off, but I really don't think they have a tort here.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]However U.S. law puts the copyright in the hands of the creator of it, NOT Reddit.
Users give Reddit a license to handle and publish the comments under their terms. I don't remember the specific terms. It may allow Reddit to pursue this, specifically when the content is being consumed from Reddit.
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to access Reddit’s content
See, it’s not your content. The minute you type in that little box on that site, your idea becomes theirs.
They should pay you.
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Media conglomerate owned website upset that people aren’t paying to read free content
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Those fuckers aren't affronted my words are being used to train AI, they are just pissed about not getting paid for it. I hereby revoke all licenses and agreements with Reddit regarding my intellectual property. Furthermore, go fuck yourselves. With a rake. Sideways.
I have the honor to be your obedient servant
M dot Shel.go fuck yourselves. With a rake. Sideways.
It's completely off-topic but this reminds me good old Guarani "japiro túnare", or roughly "go fuck a cactus".
...hey, Reddit, japiro túnare.
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Public content is public content.
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However U.S. law puts the copyright in the hands of the creator of it, NOT Reddit.
Users give Reddit a license to handle and publish the comments under their terms. I don't remember the specific terms. It may allow Reddit to pursue this, specifically when the content is being consumed from Reddit.
Yes which would allow them to handle distribution. Like IP address bans. A video store can't sue a customer over copyright if they make a disc image of a CD. That'd on the copyright holder only. They can ban the customer though.
