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  • L [email protected]

    Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.

    While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.

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    Cake day: 23 October 2023

    Guess what made me leave lol

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      Yeah I still don't get why people use Discord, it's so shitty and knowledge just gets locked up there to die

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      Well look here, for instance:

      https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1mpk2va/announcing_localllama_discord_server_bot/

      Looks like a combination of:

      • A power trippin’ mod looking to promote their discord.

      • A feeling of nowhere else to go as Reddit enshittifies.

      • Unawareness that https://sh.itjust.works/c/localllama exists because Reddit shadow bans anyone who links Lemmy.

      And this is literally a self-hosting community… Look at the comments, they all know Discord is bad, but the mood is “WTF else are ya gonna do?”

      For some context, localllama itself is kinda a refuge from Twitter/Linkedin spaces filled with Tech Bro stink, and it’s already been shattered by random niche LLM Discords (like BeaverAI, which you will find in another thread).

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      • L [email protected]

        Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.

        While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.

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        Hey, fuck you man, I'm not cool, you're cool!

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        • L [email protected]

          Same! Boost Is definitely the best ive found. Even the free version is incredible the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive, I supported Immediately after testing out other options and landing back on boost.

          I just wish they could somehow implement saving posts and going back through upvoted content similar to how it worked on reddit, but i understand that there are probably technical limitations and less financial insentive.

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          #90

          I got Boost once they released the Lemmy version, and then I got one single PragerU ad. That pissed me off, a lot, those shitheads are my enemies. I basically coin-flipped between picking a different app that wouldn't give ad space to those pricks, and just buying the ad-free thing, but laziness prevailed and I bought the thing instead. Still on Boost to this day.

          Fuck advertising, the entire advertising industry, and the plain concept of forcing your brand in front of a person's eyes non-consentually, should all disappear in the future.

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            Most people talking about "punching Nazis" are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

            The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you're talking about "punching Nazis" in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.

            In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it's easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.

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            The Nazis didn't just appear in Germany fully formed. Read about The Weimar Republic in the 1930s.

            We're long past the "attempted" takeover.

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              I’ve only ever seen this from the kids over at .ml.

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              Irony is that people in .ml ban you for not agreeing with their hivemind

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                Most people talking about "punching Nazis" are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

                The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you're talking about "punching Nazis" in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.

                In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it's easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.

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                What a load of sludgy shit. "from our position" - this a group statement or...? Kinda seems like you got an AI to take your position and write a comment for you - what's that called again? Nice prompt LLM master.

                Firstly,

                Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

                Know that do you? Besides, hate based on someone's religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.

                Beginning In the 1920's and through the '30's, years before the Nazis committed "genocide and conquest" the brown shirts and other groups walked through the streets of Germany intimidating and committing acts of violence against those they persecuted and those who disagreed with them. That's where we are now - or at least where some want to take us - so yes, punch the shit out of Nazi scum and their sympathizers.

                Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?

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                • L [email protected]

                  Yeah I still don't get why people use Discord, it's so shitty and knowledge just gets locked up there to die

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                  I recently downloaded a mod for a game from a custom content creator who hosted their own webpage. I experienced issues, so I went to see if there was a support page of common issues. Instead, their "support" was a link to their Discord server.

                  Which means instead of an FAQ page, or an email account that they could respond to in their own time, this person preferred to moderate a live chatroom where people ask the same questions over and over again? On the one hand, as a user of their cc, it's reassuring to have someone who worked on the content there to live-answer any questions. I got my problem solved quickly, so the user experience is definitely positive. On the other hand, I would've thought keeping up essentially a "customer support" Discord to be far more tedious and frustrating than maintaining other common alternatives.

                  I just can't imagine having the time and energy to stay on top of a Discord where everyone is upset and you have to repeat yourself constantly. It sounds like a living Hell.

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                    The other day I made it off hand remark about my desire to take out pent up rage on several sexual predators being shown in a video.

                    Instant ban of a 13-year-old account for "threatening violence." I consider it a badge of honor against the fascist platform. Honestly it's no better than Twitter these days.

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                    Over on the new Digg I got a comment auto moderated by AI for describing a scenario where I angrily shakes my fist at someone and gave them a thumbs down because they almost hit a goose.

                    Violence

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                    • N [email protected]

                      It's run by a fucking dickhead worshipping Musk.

                      Yeah, and Reddit will permaban anyone talking about "political violence", ideas like punching Nazis and harassing MAGAts, all the while giving the bastards a free ticket to do shit they want over there like destroying LGBTQ symbols.

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                      There's like, a billion fucking nazi, incel, misogynist subs on reddit that are just allowed to exist

                      Tell any one of those subreddit-goers to fuck off for their nazi incel misogynist bullshit? Permabanned

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                        The worst part is the Contributor Quality Score, which is the subjective version of karma.

                        If you're not a bot, then you have to spend a lot of real time producing acceptable content to get to do anything YOU want to do. You literally have to grind Reddit to be able to post in some subs, even if your account is older than the hills and has positive karma.

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                        Thank you for including a link; this sounds like a fucking joke.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          The Nazis didn't just appear in Germany fully formed. Read about The Weimar Republic in the 1930s.

                          We're long past the "attempted" takeover.

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                          The threshold of Nazi takeover could reasonably be taken to be the Enabling Act. There has been no equivalent in the US.

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                            What a load of sludgy shit. "from our position" - this a group statement or...? Kinda seems like you got an AI to take your position and write a comment for you - what's that called again? Nice prompt LLM master.

                            Firstly,

                            Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

                            Know that do you? Besides, hate based on someone's religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.

                            Beginning In the 1920's and through the '30's, years before the Nazis committed "genocide and conquest" the brown shirts and other groups walked through the streets of Germany intimidating and committing acts of violence against those they persecuted and those who disagreed with them. That's where we are now - or at least where some want to take us - so yes, punch the shit out of Nazi scum and their sympathizers.

                            Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?

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                            hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.

                            Pull the other one. Violence has a meaning that every English-speaker understands, and hatred does not meet that definition.

                            Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?

                            Well, the KPD strategy of meeting them in street brawls went so well, didn't it?

                            That’s where we are now

                            So, given that you just issued me a challenge about what I'd do, do I take it you're out in the street roughing up anyone with a MAGA hat?

                            If not, then I think you actually understand and agree on a practical level: the situation in the US is not as clear cut as the fight against the Nazis ended up, and which people wish to invoke when they say "punch a Nazi."

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                              Random Rant:
                              I feel like reddit died after they banned all the "unmoderated" communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.

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                              Man, Lemmy on Reddit is like having to listen to someone who constantly brings up their ex in conversation whilst constantly telling you how little they care.

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                                Probably, but im more concerned with archiving the years of information being poured into the platform.

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                                We need forums back.

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.

                                  While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.

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                                  Firing Victoria was the beginning of the end.

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                                    they want to paywall subs eventually, plus becoming a facebook clone down the line, where the datamining features included, like requiring your REAL ID, facial recognition, i suspect thier bannings propensity will get more intense as facebook too if you try to "lie" on your credentials.

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                                    like requiring your REAL ID

                                    Remember when you didn't even need to give an email address to sign up?

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                                      Most people talking about "punching Nazis" are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.

                                      The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you're talking about "punching Nazis" in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.

                                      In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it's easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.

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                                      They were nazis before the genocide and conquest

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                                        Man, Lemmy on Reddit is like having to listen to someone who constantly brings up their ex in conversation whilst constantly telling you how little they care.

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                                        "Wow, my ex was in the news again. He's running around downtown in a trench coat flashing people and trying to punch them in the nuts"

                                        "Yeah, okay, we get it. You dated the Nutsack Bandit. No need to keep bringing it up."

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          I feel that i fully aknowlaged the selfishness of my actions in terms of the value I bring to society. I simply disagree with the idea that this is for everyone. There have always been outliers or introverts, and they will and have provided value where they can, even If, like you said, its not actually productive to the average experience of the everyday person(like your farm example). Even so I do believe people can do great things from the relative Isolation of their peers. A book for example could radicalize millions.

                                          I will admit that resisting opression by communicating thoughts and ideas with others is paramount, and me and others like me are possibly doing a disservice to the rest of our communities by not being present. But as long as the "isolation" is not a coping mechanism, I don't see an issue. Sure interaction like this is surface level but to say its unhealthy... Ill agree that too much of this Is unhealthy, but that applies to almost everything. With anything that effects your brain, its all about your relationship with that substace or action not just the substance or action itself.

                                          To me, its as if you view introversion as a mental illness rather than a personality type or lifestyle. Please correct me if im wrong.

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                                          Well I’m still talking within the context of the original comment “everyone should feel this kind of community.” But I think we’ve shifted into a different context here, in which case you’re right, introversion is definitely a thing.

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