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    When I'm bored, I change how my Plasma looks. Happens once in a while. I would not complain if it ever turns into a "choose global theme | apply global theme" workflow tho.

    I mean, it is basically there, except you need to download and apply Kvantum themes.

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      Not trying to yuck your yum, but what benefit for caps lock remap. Do you use caps lock that often?

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      I think they are saying the other way around, their caps lock activates Ctrl. I have mine set up as a left hand backspace. KDE has a number of built in options for this where you just need to tick a box to activate it. I miss it a lot on my work PC (windows)

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      • humanpenguin@feddit.ukH [email protected]

        Disabled users tend to customise a lot. Because no matter how well-intentioned the accessibility options may be. Most are actually unusable in real world situations.

        Generally because developers are rarely disabled in the way being supported. And seem to assume full or 0 use. Never recognising we depend more on our limited abilities to see hear or move them most able-bodied do. So options that try to replace 100% slow us down rather than making things easier. So we are forced to spend time trying to adapt colours fonts and sounds in ways they never consider. Just to be able to compete in any form of work.

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        Am disabled, though thankfully i mostly only need magnification and swapping colors around. Still, it's me fiddling with UI element sizes, fonts, and colors to get a baseline i can live with so I only have to use zoom now and again as opposed to constantly.

        Compare and contrast with how Windows has handled things since windows 8 in that theirs is a global percentage based scaling of EVERYTHING.

        For that reason alone I've been pro-linux for the past decade. That I can game on linux? Means i have no want or reason to go backto windows. Is it perfect? Nope! There are always hiccups in everything. Yet it does most of what i want without complaint.

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          When I'm bored, I change how my Plasma looks. Happens once in a while. I would not complain if it ever turns into a "choose global theme | apply global theme" workflow tho.

          I mean, it is basically there, except you need to download and apply Kvantum themes.

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          I'm in the same boat. I have to change it every now and then to break the visual fatigue of staring at the same theme for weeks. I miss Compiz with Emerald and whatever we were using 5-10 years ago. Themes are less transformative nowadays. I used to have crazy themed and now it's hard to find something that isn't just a recolor of a fairly plain theme.

          Having said that, someone shared this great theme roundup here on Lemmy a while back. I used the purple one and now the Solaris color one. https://quickfix.es/2023/10/going-off-theme-the-prologue/

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              Am disabled, though thankfully i mostly only need magnification and swapping colors around. Still, it's me fiddling with UI element sizes, fonts, and colors to get a baseline i can live with so I only have to use zoom now and again as opposed to constantly.

              Compare and contrast with how Windows has handled things since windows 8 in that theirs is a global percentage based scaling of EVERYTHING.

              For that reason alone I've been pro-linux for the past decade. That I can game on linux? Means i have no want or reason to go backto windows. Is it perfect? Nope! There are always hiccups in everything. Yet it does most of what i want without complaint.

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              Grins Been non windows at home since the 90s. Lost my vision and mobility in the early 2000s. So really have not tried to use windows since.

              But yeah I have 3 32-inch monitors, tend to have the magnifier on the alt key with the mouse to zoom. But only use it for setting up new software of the odd gnome menu stuff.

              But every now and then you get some software that just refuses to follow the gui text hints and fails to give users any options. OS is way better than proprietary. But many developers just do not realise how little accessibility in the OS actually helps with workflow when they do not allow text customisation.

              And what the F%$^ is it with pale grey on white text lately why the hell does anyone want that. Low contrast text and backgrounds seems to be a very annoying trend over the last 10 years.

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                Dude what??

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                What what?

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                  Dude what??

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                  using linux is a slur now

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                  • humanpenguin@feddit.ukH [email protected]

                    Disabled users tend to customise a lot. Because no matter how well-intentioned the accessibility options may be. Most are actually unusable in real world situations.

                    Generally because developers are rarely disabled in the way being supported. And seem to assume full or 0 use. Never recognising we depend more on our limited abilities to see hear or move them most able-bodied do. So options that try to replace 100% slow us down rather than making things easier. So we are forced to spend time trying to adapt colours fonts and sounds in ways they never consider. Just to be able to compete in any form of work.

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                    I think that part of the issue is that every disability is unique to some degree. No two people who are blind have blindness to the same degree. Colorblind people have several variations they could be experiencing. There are neurological disorders that range from not being able to read sentences normally because the words start to become jumbled to being unable to focus on large amounts of text. There are physical disabilities of all sorts that affect the arms and hands or even the ability to sit upright to look at the computer screen.

                    Because of that, there are two options:

                    • build a desktop environment custom-tailored to each individuals needs.

                    • build some general purpose accessibility options that can (and must) be adjusted to meet an individuals needs, which may or may not be able to meet them 100%.

                    Out of the two, the second one is far more feasible, and more possible to improve upon.

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                      The only ricing I did on my vanilla Gnome is to go get the background from fedora 38 because I think it looks nicer than the one in 41

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                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                        Is no one going to comment on the racial slur that is "ricing"?

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                        it's like the words picnic and thanksgiving in their american-specific contexts, with both words no longer carry the connotation that implies lynching black people or giving thanks to god for genociding native americans; the present day version of both of these words, along with ricing, is neutral now.

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                          What what?

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                          ricing was a pejorative word that used to describe what people did to japanese & korean cars; but it's stopped carrying that connotation in a similar manner to the words picnic and thanksgiving.

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                            it's like the words picnic and thanksgiving in their american-specific contexts, with both words no longer carry the connotation that implies lynching black people or giving thanks to god for genociding native americans; the present day version of both of these words, along with ricing, is neutral now.

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                            It just seems like it could have very easily been replaced with "customization" without the conflict.

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                              it's like the words picnic and thanksgiving in their american-specific contexts, with both words no longer carry the connotation that implies lynching black people or giving thanks to god for genociding native americans; the present day version of both of these words, along with ricing, is neutral now.

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                              We don’t consider it to be neutral, and we remove posts that use the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

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                                Dude what??

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                                The person you replied to isn't entirely wrong, though.

                                "ricing" was a term in use in the car modding scene around the 80s and 90s especially, where among certain groups it was popular to modify Japanese import cars with kits and decals etc to mimic the look of the Japanese racing scene.

                                Some people considered these mods to be tacky and worthless because they usually tended to focus more on aesthetics than performance, purely tricking the car up visually with no other changes. Due to the Asian origin of these mods and the stereotype that Asians eat a lot.of rice, the cars were insultingly dubbed "rice burners" or " ricers" and the process of doing it "ricing"

                                It was intended 100% as an insult, basically meaning "Your car looks like shit because of all that Asian stuff you put on it"

                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

                                Like many insults of course, the insult is often "reclaimed" by the group it targets, who begin to use it between themselves in a favourable way, without any insult or negative connotation.

                                Ricing in the context of computers where people are styling, theming and "tricking out" their desktop almost certainly was borrowed from the car scene.

                                By this point there is basically no negative intent around the term at all, and especially not racist, but the place the term from was.

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                                  using linux is a slur now

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                                  Yes that's definitely what I meant 🙄

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                                    We don’t consider it to be neutral, and we remove posts that use the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

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                                    never heard that one before

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                                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                      It just seems like it could have very easily been replaced with "customization" without the conflict.

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                                      it should have, but it wasn't and now it's part of modern pop culture lexicon and i'm 100% onboard with divorcing words from thier ugly, painful history.

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                                        Grins Been non windows at home since the 90s. Lost my vision and mobility in the early 2000s. So really have not tried to use windows since.

                                        But yeah I have 3 32-inch monitors, tend to have the magnifier on the alt key with the mouse to zoom. But only use it for setting up new software of the odd gnome menu stuff.

                                        But every now and then you get some software that just refuses to follow the gui text hints and fails to give users any options. OS is way better than proprietary. But many developers just do not realise how little accessibility in the OS actually helps with workflow when they do not allow text customisation.

                                        And what the F%$^ is it with pale grey on white text lately why the hell does anyone want that. Low contrast text and backgrounds seems to be a very annoying trend over the last 10 years.

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                                        I don't have vision problems and I hate the low contrast text being shoved into everything. I've no idea how frustrating it must be if you have sight issues, but I can imagine.

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                                          I have a custom theme for Cinnamon/GTK... But they recently updated it and the new default theme doesn't actually look that bad... But using the default theme will make me a sheep. ;_;

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