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    Why it matters: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is already $1 billion over budget by one estimate, with more than three months left in the fiscal year. That's alarmed lawmakers in both parties — and raised the possibility of Trump clawing funds from agencies to feed ICE.

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    I keep seeing posts like this, but the sad truth is they are going to be just fine. The DHS just got a 65% increase in their budget for 2026 to go to 60 billion dollars. I believe this is the largest percentage increase since it began. That is almost 4x the budget of NASA and includes 40 billion in discretionary spending. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf)

    Even if they run out of money before September, Congress will trip over themselves to give them more money. There are zero checks on Noem at this point.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/06/kristi-noem-ice-dhs-budget-trump-power.html

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      So at 1 billion dollars to deport 250k people, many of which are actually us citizens, it will be a mere 44 billion to deport every illegal immigrant according to recent estimates. It will also lead to a huge reduction in tax revenue, and increase in the price of both goods and labor.

      Great investment if you hate America

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      That's my theory. Trump is pissed he lost 2020 and wants to destroy the country.

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        That's my theory. Trump is pissed he lost 2020 and wants to destroy the country.

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        Pissed about His whole FCK life with all this historical fails
        He immediately began destroying the US in 2016...

        2020 were further preparations... with allegations of stolen election... January 6, etc. .... that in 2024 there will not be a single statement about election manipulation, although it is certain that it was manipulated.

        Moreover, most of Biden's proposals were blocked by Republicans... seems more like a deliberate pawn sacrifice so that one has something to complain about afterwards for the supporters

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        • B [email protected]

          Why it matters: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is already $1 billion over budget by one estimate, with more than three months left in the fiscal year. That's alarmed lawmakers in both parties — and raised the possibility of Trump clawing funds from agencies to feed ICE.

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          No biggie. When the big bogus bill gets passed ICE will be plush with cash.

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          • D [email protected]

            So at 1 billion dollars to deport 250k people, many of which are actually us citizens, it will be a mere 44 billion to deport every illegal immigrant according to recent estimates. It will also lead to a huge reduction in tax revenue, and increase in the price of both goods and labor.

            Great investment if you hate America

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            their hate for minorities is greater than whatever positive emotions they can have towards the country.

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            • B [email protected]

              Why it matters: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is already $1 billion over budget by one estimate, with more than three months left in the fiscal year. That's alarmed lawmakers in both parties — and raised the possibility of Trump clawing funds from agencies to feed ICE.

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              It's clear that ICE is morally bankrupt, but I thought that its restructuring into a secret police force would be financed by these absurd import tariffs, which are so broad in scope that they are basically tantamount to a massive VAT increase.

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              • B [email protected]

                Why it matters: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is already $1 billion over budget by one estimate, with more than three months left in the fiscal year. That's alarmed lawmakers in both parties — and raised the possibility of Trump clawing funds from agencies to feed ICE.

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                In 1930's Germany, the NAZI party had the same logistics and financial cost of displacement problems. They figured out a solution. This freezes my blood.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Why it matters: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is already $1 billion over budget by one estimate, with more than three months left in the fiscal year. That's alarmed lawmakers in both parties — and raised the possibility of Trump clawing funds from agencies to feed ICE.

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                  Trumps attempt at creating a fascist dictator regime is collapsing.

                  1. The Military parade clearly showed he doesn't have the backup of the military.
                  2. People are beginning to mass protest, and the no kings protests were way more successful than the parade.
                  3. Republican politicians are becoming more reluctant in their support.
                  4. Courts are often judging against him.
                  5. When Trump ups the ante resistance increases.

                  That means Trump doesn't really control any part of the nation the way a dictator is supposed to, and his attempts to achieve it are failing.
                  Obviously the flawed democracy of USA is not safe yet, but if the trend continues, there is hope USA may get through this eventually.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Trumps attempt at creating a fascist dictator regime is collapsing.

                    1. The Military parade clearly showed he doesn't have the backup of the military.
                    2. People are beginning to mass protest, and the no kings protests were way more successful than the parade.
                    3. Republican politicians are becoming more reluctant in their support.
                    4. Courts are often judging against him.
                    5. When Trump ups the ante resistance increases.

                    That means Trump doesn't really control any part of the nation the way a dictator is supposed to, and his attempts to achieve it are failing.
                    Obviously the flawed democracy of USA is not safe yet, but if the trend continues, there is hope USA may get through this eventually.

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                    Don't worry for Trump. Nothing that a good old war can solve... Everybody I'll have to fall in line, or be lined up, in the name of patriotism.

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                    • dandomrude@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      It's clear that ICE is morally bankrupt, but I thought that its restructuring into a secret police force would be financed by these absurd import tariffs, which are so broad in scope that they are basically tantamount to a massive VAT increase.

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                      But the orange clown has set them way too high; the rates he's imposed are just as likely to cause way fewer imports, and therefore not nearly as much gov revenue as he thinks

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                        But the orange clown has set them way too high; the rates he's imposed are just as likely to cause way fewer imports, and therefore not nearly as much gov revenue as he thinks

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                        Yes, it still amounts to billions in additional tax revenue, which is of course paid for by US citizens rather than the manufacturing countries – but this sum is probably already reserved for the planned tax cuts for the super-rich.

                        The plan is presumably to finance Trump's private army through additional cuts in healthcare, environmental protection, education, and all other areas that are counterproductive to fascism.

                        I'm not a US citizen, but I think this country is screwed.

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                          Trumps attempt at creating a fascist dictator regime is collapsing.

                          1. The Military parade clearly showed he doesn't have the backup of the military.
                          2. People are beginning to mass protest, and the no kings protests were way more successful than the parade.
                          3. Republican politicians are becoming more reluctant in their support.
                          4. Courts are often judging against him.
                          5. When Trump ups the ante resistance increases.

                          That means Trump doesn't really control any part of the nation the way a dictator is supposed to, and his attempts to achieve it are failing.
                          Obviously the flawed democracy of USA is not safe yet, but if the trend continues, there is hope USA may get through this eventually.

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                          I won't be satisfied that this attempt at fascism has collapsed until we no longer have plain-clothes, masked goons kidnapping people off the street.

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                            I won't be satisfied that this attempt at fascism has collapsed until we no longer have plain-clothes, masked goons kidnapping people off the street.

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                            That is a fair benchmark

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                              I won't be satisfied that this attempt at fascism has collapsed until we no longer have plain-clothes, masked goons kidnapping people off the street.

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                              You are right, it has not collapsed yes, but it is collapsing. And I don't think it's possible now for him to finish it. Things looked much worse a month ago.

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                                Don't worry for Trump. Nothing that a good old war can solve... Everybody I'll have to fall in line, or be lined up, in the name of patriotism.

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                                He is probably trying just that, because it's common knowledge that a war normally has the effect that people back the current president/administration while fighting an exterior enemy.
                                Problem for Trump is, that he can't find a war to fight that is plausibly legitimate. Only a small minority is buying it with Iran, and he doesn't have any other options.

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                                  Trumps attempt at creating a fascist dictator regime is collapsing.

                                  1. The Military parade clearly showed he doesn't have the backup of the military.
                                  2. People are beginning to mass protest, and the no kings protests were way more successful than the parade.
                                  3. Republican politicians are becoming more reluctant in their support.
                                  4. Courts are often judging against him.
                                  5. When Trump ups the ante resistance increases.

                                  That means Trump doesn't really control any part of the nation the way a dictator is supposed to, and his attempts to achieve it are failing.
                                  Obviously the flawed democracy of USA is not safe yet, but if the trend continues, there is hope USA may get through this eventually.

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                                  The military parade might have been the sickest burn yet, so far.

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                                    The military parade might have been the sickest burn yet, so far.

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                                    It was beautiful to see how everybody were bored out of their mind. Nobody enjoyed being there. 🤣

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                                      He is probably trying just that, because it's common knowledge that a war normally has the effect that people back the current president/administration while fighting an exterior enemy.
                                      Problem for Trump is, that he can't find a war to fight that is plausibly legitimate. Only a small minority is buying it with Iran, and he doesn't have any other options.

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                                      Yeah, it feels like Iran would be more like the end of Vietnam in terms of public opinion.

                                      I also don't think Iran is going to do anything to make war more appealing (especially given they can just focus efforts on Israel).

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                                        It's clear that ICE is morally bankrupt, but I thought that its restructuring into a secret police force would be financed by these absurd import tariffs, which are so broad in scope that they are basically tantamount to a massive VAT increase.

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                                        It's cause he can't dictate that. Tariffs are just income to pay bills, congress sets budgets and even they aren't too happy with a budget that's increased spending. So it's even likely his increases to ICE DHS that he requested won't make it through.

                                        He could try to siphon money from elsewhere, but that'd just get caught up in the courts (and he'd probably loose as congress owns the purse).

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                                          I keep seeing posts like this, but the sad truth is they are going to be just fine. The DHS just got a 65% increase in their budget for 2026 to go to 60 billion dollars. I believe this is the largest percentage increase since it began. That is almost 4x the budget of NASA and includes 40 billion in discretionary spending. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf)

                                          Even if they run out of money before September, Congress will trip over themselves to give them more money. There are zero checks on Noem at this point.

                                          https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/06/kristi-noem-ice-dhs-budget-trump-power.html

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                                          That budget hasn't been passed yet to my knowledge. Not to mention the president's budget request never makes it through, as the house and senate always have their own priorities.

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