Iran declares U.S. citizens, personnel 'legitimate targets' after strike on nuclear sites
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First sentence:
Iran announced Sunday that any American civilian or military personnel in the region are now considered legitimate targets
So yes, still not all Americans, but no, not just government employees, American civilians too.
But I suspect non-military people will be arrested, not treated as military targets to be attacked or bombed.
Based on that sentence, it even just says "in the region" so hardly "all" Americans
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So they will most likely use terrorist attacks, targeting civilians, because that’s the best hope they have to end the war: when the people back home get serious about ending it as they’re taking losses.
Remember what happened the last time a major terrorist strike happened in USA? That's the number one way to get ordinary civilians of a democracy to support an actual war almost 100%. It's the kind of strategy that makes Pentagon say "yeah lol be my guest let's see what happens".
Go explain that to Iran's leaders. Good luck!
On 9/11, the message sent was very unclear ("we hate you for your overall activity in the middle-east and the rest of the world" and/or "death to America").
This time, it may be very clear: "that's retaliation for the unjustified bombing of our country" (though Iran had its share of chanting "death to America", so yes, YMMV).
I agree with you, you know: more deaths will lead to more retaliations, from both sides. Someone has to act like a true adult responsible pragmatic leader now. But there is none in power on either side.
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Propaganda is when you punch someone in the face and then quote them saying "I'll kill you" instead of mentioning the face punch.
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So they will most likely use terrorist attacks, targeting civilians, because that’s the best hope they have to end the war: when the people back home get serious about ending it as they’re taking losses.
Remember what happened the last time a major terrorist strike happened in USA? That's the number one way to get ordinary civilians of a democracy to support an actual war almost 100%. It's the kind of strategy that makes Pentagon say "yeah lol be my guest let's see what happens".
Remember what happened the last time a major terrorist strike happened in USA?
The USA responded by attacking the wrong country under the false premise of "weapons of mass destruction "?
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What does that have to do with civilians being legitimate targets in war?
It depends on your definition of "legitimate", I suppose.
My point is that the targeting of civilians is still and always has been common in war. It may now be de jure illegal but it is de facto not policed.
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I mean, yeah, that's what a declaration of war usually entails.
Mmm, not really.
You can't just slaughter civilians willy nilly. Well, you can, obviously, as shown by what's going on in the world, but international laws say you shouldn't.
Iran could legally intern any Americans, but civilians wouldn't still be POW's. And should technically have rights and whatnot.
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WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR??
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor,
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Mmm, not really.
You can't just slaughter civilians willy nilly. Well, you can, obviously, as shown by what's going on in the world, but international laws say you shouldn't.
Iran could legally intern any Americans, but civilians wouldn't still be POW's. And should technically have rights and whatnot.
International laws have said you shouldn't since they were written, and not a single engagement has followed those laws. I disregard their existence as much as the people who enact war.
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International laws have said you shouldn't since they were written, and not a single engagement has followed those laws. I disregard their existence as much as the people who enact war.
To disregard their existence is to pretend they don't matter at all, which is incredibly naive.
There's no perfect compliance, no, but if they weren't respected at all and had no effect, the situations would be different.
For instance yeah, Russia has apparently brought out WWI style choking agents and used them. But there's no widespread use at least, and no mustard gas. Which would be more effective for Russia to do. But they don't, as they want to keep plausible deniability so that Europe doesn't gain an actual reason to mount an offensive.
So yeah, while you are right in that psychotic asshats don't care about them, they are affected by them nonetheless.
Basically ROE says that medics shouldn't be shot, but my brother trained as a medic and one of the first things they've we're unofficially taught was to hide their crosses on the battlefield, as Russians would literally aim at medics. (Finnish army.)
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Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
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Remember what happened the last time a major terrorist strike happened in USA?
The USA responded by attacking the wrong country under the false premise of "weapons of mass destruction "?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The USA responded by attacking the wrong country
Not just one! They got Osama bin Laden eventually though so amazing success
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It depends on your definition of "legitimate", I suppose.
My point is that the targeting of civilians is still and always has been common in war. It may now be de jure illegal but it is de facto not policed.
The word legitimate has a pretty specific definition it's not really something that can be reasonably debated.
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Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
You voted(or didn't) for him and are responsible. Good luck, leave the rest of the world out of this.
Sincerely the world.
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Americans have only ever pretended to care about non-combatants when it's convenient. President Obama even invented the term 'enemy combatant' so he could pretend his drone strikes were killing fewer civilians.
Why would you post such an obvious and easily verifiably false statement.
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Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Live by the sword, die by the sword. We let Gazan children die because of who their parents voted for. I'm not saying two wrong make a right but that doing what is right starts with us.
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Live by the sword, die by the sword. We let Gazan children die because of who their parents voted for. I'm not saying two wrong make a right but that doing what is right starts with us.
I admit I failed to press the button that would have solved that
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I admit I failed to press the button that would have solved that
admitting it is cool and all, but would have been super awesome if you weren't a huge pile of shit 8 months ago.
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Is Iran mad at me now? Bruh this is why I don't like leaving the house. /s But seriously something has got to give with this maniac regime we have here in the U.S., and I'm afraid we are the only ones who could realistically stand up and change anything. Nobody else is coming to save us.
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Is Iran mad at me now? Bruh this is why I don't like leaving the house. /s But seriously something has got to give with this maniac regime we have here in the U.S., and I'm afraid we are the only ones who could realistically stand up and change anything. Nobody else is coming to save us.
We are the only ones who could realistically stand up and change anything. Nobody else is coming to save us.
This is correct.
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Live by the sword, die by the sword. We let Gazan children die because of who their parents voted for. I'm not saying two wrong make a right but that doing what is right starts with us.
I know. I have always wished for Bernie to be president but nothing I tried (and I tried) was enought to get my boy elected, nor my local Democrat (I live in a red state unfortunately).
