Why is Lemmy attempting to radicalise people to enforce class wars?
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IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.
All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars ...
Yes, unironically and openly, I support and advocate for class war against the capitalist class. The capitalist class wages their class war against the working class every single day in every single facet of modern existence. It's well past time we start fighting back as an exercise of our own individual and collective self-defense. Class consciousness should never have been controversial, and it is only controversial because it encourages people to challenge capitalism.
... and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference.
You don't need any political knowledge to know my positions. I am literally an anarchist, and I have said so loudly and often. Like me, most of these "extremists" are open socialists and communists and will readily tell you their views and ideologies (many of whom I emphatically disagree with from their left, but I somehow suspect you would consider me just as "extreme", namely for challenging the utility and inevitability of capitalism).
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
Yes, it is a shame that capitalism drowns out all our hobbies, all our positive experiences, everything so completely that we need to waste so much bandwidth drowning out the manipulative noise peddled by capitalists on almost every other platform.
It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
I don't recommend completely blocking yourself off from politics forever, but if you really need to take a temporary break like everyone deserves, I recommend making an alt account with all political communities and posters blocked. But keep in mind...you might be done with politics, but politics is never done with you. In particular, capitalism is never gonna ask your permission to use and abuse you.
And really, this is a special case of the fact that you need to curate your own feed. Some other social networks do this for you in ways that compromise your privacy and, frankly, brainwash people into accepting the neoliberal monoculture.
IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.
Not wanting to rain on your parade, but that's what an echo chamber does.
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Imagine thinking Lemmy is propagandizing people into these beliefs and not just the one platform that's not relentlessly shoving the capitalist boot down everyone's throat and allowing for semi-genuine conversation like you rarely see in corpo social media.
Like, sure, it's Lemmy that's pushing the narrative of class warfare and no other platform has that kind of talk but hidden by mod abuse. Nope, just Lemmy, clearly.
Maybe this is a selfawarewolf post.....
Touchy subject for you huh, and you're reading far more into it than the words that are there.
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Touchy subject for you huh, and you're reading far more into it than the words that are there.
Nah, just sick of the capitalist bootlickers pretending like there isn't already a class war that we are and have been losing for centuries.
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your insinuation that those of us more politically active must be young and not worldly is infantilizing bullshit.
Ahh, spoken like a true unworldly young person. I hope you understand in twenty years.
Spoken like a teenager pretending to be an adult lol.
People with actual experience don't assume someone's disagreement means they are inexperienced. But assuming as much is a good indicator of someone being actually inexperienced, though.
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Don't worry. As a little experiment, I've found time and time again across a whole range of social media sites over years, that having a username that some people could perceive as aggressive will get you blocked / banned faster than you would believe. The people of Lemmy are not as different/open as they think they are!
Unfortunately, when I open groups, I get called out that it should be merged with a sort-of-similar group, and then of course, empty groups are hard to start.
Having to take the effort to block all the politics in the first place mean 90% of people won't do it and will get tied up with giving their asshole to each post rather than perhaps what they wanted to come here for in the first place. I believe that doesn't create an overall diverse community. Sentiment analysis is an old and established form of ai that would be useful here.
Don’t worry. As a little experiment, I’ve found time and time again across a whole range of social media sites over years, that having a username that some people could perceive as aggressive will get you blocked / banned faster than you would believe. The people of Lemmy are not as different/open as they think they are!
You get banned for having the username "catty"? Seriously?
Unfortunately, when I open groups, I get called out that it should be merged with a sort-of-similar group, and then of course, empty groups are hard to start.
I mean is that a bad thing that groups get merged? Lemmy ain't reddit, and if you wanna follow niche (or even not-so-niche) hobbies here, it's usually better to have one group with 10 people in it rather than 5 groups with 2 people in it. If you wanna hang around in your 2-person group, no one's gonna ban you for doing so.
Having to take the effort to block all the politics in the first place mean 90% of people won’t do it and will get tied up with giving their asshole to each post rather than perhaps what they wanted to come here for in the first place. I believe that doesn’t create an overall diverse community.
If you joined an instance where 90% of the default communities offend you, maybe you should consider joining another instance?
Sentiment analysis is an old and established form of ai that would be useful here.
You'd use sentiment analysis how, exactly?
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There should be no class war. A community that fosters it is not helping.
What should be and what is are two different things, and pretending like something doesn't exist just because you don't want itto exist is a detriment to you more than anything else.
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Ok, problems not denied... So, everything's fixed, right? The people are essentially powerless - politics aside - and arguing such things is moot and a distraction to a happy life.
You are correct, the people are essentially powerless, but "essentially" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting there. You seem to be one of the "useful idiots", so please shut your fucking mouth and go stick your head in the bush somewhere far away so you don't get in the way of the rest of us.
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Ok, problems not denied... So, everything's fixed, right? The people are essentially powerless - politics aside - and arguing such things is moot and a distraction to a happy life.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Man, what a defeatist attitude. "If I can't fix everything, why even bother to make small changes for the better."
Edit: Oh, I see. This is a shitpost. Nice b8 m8, then. Ya got me.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
This is a case of being the change you want to see in the world. The fediverse contains content you subscribe to or create. It's trivial to block content you don't want to see. It's still small enough that you can effect visible change on it. And if you're not seeing content you want to see, are able to post that content.
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You are correct, the people are essentially powerless, but "essentially" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting there. You seem to be one of the "useful idiots", so please shut your fucking mouth and go stick your head in the bush somewhere far away so you don't get in the way of the rest of us.
so you don’t get in the way of the rest of us
Too busy going nowhere by your own words and also to remember your manners. I'm not easily offended so won't be reporting this post as "omg, person swore at me, get him mods!". You're not the spokesperson of other people, no matter how the community makes you think you are. That's radicalisation.
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Nah, just sick of the capitalist bootlickers pretending like there isn't already a class war that we are and have been losing for centuries.
And it's better to agitate and busy people over theory and semantics rather than focus on the things they can do.
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy
You sure don't seem very senlightened, let alone twice so.
If you're not young, then you've had longer to observe systemic bullshit, so I'm not sure why you're trying to imply that people should become dumber and more other-blind over time.
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IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.
Not wanting to rain on your parade, but that's what an echo chamber does.
Exactly, that's what a neoliberal echo chamber like R*ddit does. It reinforces neoliberal monoculture. So it's not shocking that, when I leave that neoliberal echo chamber, the world seems a lot less neoliberal.
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Imagine thinking Lemmy is propagandizing people into these beliefs and not just the one platform that's not relentlessly shoving the capitalist boot down everyone's throat and allowing for semi-genuine conversation like you rarely see in corpo social media.
Like, sure, it's Lemmy that's pushing the narrative of class warfare and no other platform has that kind of talk but hidden by mod abuse. Nope, just Lemmy, clearly.
Maybe this is a selfawarewolf post.....
We all went through phases of "I wanna be in the known!" Hell, it's basically UFO Obsession capitalised by the gov.
But there's no "big secret". People just aren't ready to hear it and will continue to search for it.
Normally I'd say give the guy a break... But he shows zero interest to change.
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And it's better to agitate and busy people over theory and semantics rather than focus on the things they can do.
I’m beginning to think you’re not looking for an answer to your question and that you’re just here to proselytize to the other side.
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It isn't that it contradicts any political biases. But, it's like, ok, enough, we get it, yawn, now for positive stuff like hobbies, fun stuff, not the same whinging circle jerk over and over again.
You live with the privilege of focusing on things that make you happy. Other people are stressed AF rn.
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It's the exact thing I meant and didn't realise I had to be explicit as I thought this would be common knowledge amongst these vocal self-proclaimed worldly people. It happens with any extremist group, terrorist cells or potential threats to the government and where better to obtain such information than online? It's naive to think the world's governments don't also have a lemmy presence with relevant operations. "oh but we're too smol, they wouldn't bother waaahh" is exactly what such organisations would want the community to think.
Yes I think i tended towards the latter view because I just don't see much real world action or organising going on here.
But some of the stuff posted does seem a bit sus - it's almost a caricature.
Even quite radical people usually have some ability to reason or engage in moderate discussion.I guess it doesn't cost law enforcement much to keep an eye on this, and I'm sure lots of the terms used will flag in their webcrawlers and such.
A few spooks and a few bots can probably do quite a lot across a lot of different social media so really not hard for them to have some presence here for minimal effort.
