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Why is Lemmy attempting to radicalise people to enforce class wars?

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  • C [email protected]

    Ok, problems not denied... So, everything's fixed, right? The people are essentially powerless - politics aside - and arguing such things is moot and a distraction to a happy life.

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    Man, what a defeatist attitude. "If I can't fix everything, why even bother to make small changes for the better."

    Edit: Oh, I see. This is a shitpost. Nice b8 m8, then. Ya got me.

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    • C [email protected]

      At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.

      Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.

      This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.

      I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.

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      This is a case of being the change you want to see in the world. The fediverse contains content you subscribe to or create. It's trivial to block content you don't want to see. It's still small enough that you can effect visible change on it. And if you're not seeing content you want to see, are able to post that content.

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      • narr1@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

        You are correct, the people are essentially powerless, but "essentially" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting there. You seem to be one of the "useful idiots", so please shut your fucking mouth and go stick your head in the bush somewhere far away so you don't get in the way of the rest of us.

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        so you don’t get in the way of the rest of us

        Too busy going nowhere by your own words and also to remember your manners. I'm not easily offended so won't be reporting this post as "omg, person swore at me, get him mods!". You're not the spokesperson of other people, no matter how the community makes you think you are. That's radicalisation.

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        • P [email protected]

          Nah, just sick of the capitalist bootlickers pretending like there isn't already a class war that we are and have been losing for centuries.

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          And it's better to agitate and busy people over theory and semantics rather than focus on the things they can do.

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          • C [email protected]

            At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.

            Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.

            This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.

            I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.

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            I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy

            You sure don't seem very senlightened, let alone twice so.

            If you're not young, then you've had longer to observe systemic bullshit, so I'm not sure why you're trying to imply that people should become dumber and more other-blind over time.

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            • C [email protected]

              IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.

              Not wanting to rain on your parade, but that's what an echo chamber does.

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              Exactly, that's what a neoliberal echo chamber like R*ddit does. It reinforces neoliberal monoculture. So it's not shocking that, when I leave that neoliberal echo chamber, the world seems a lot less neoliberal.

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              • P [email protected]

                Imagine thinking Lemmy is propagandizing people into these beliefs and not just the one platform that's not relentlessly shoving the capitalist boot down everyone's throat and allowing for semi-genuine conversation like you rarely see in corpo social media.

                Like, sure, it's Lemmy that's pushing the narrative of class warfare and no other platform has that kind of talk but hidden by mod abuse. Nope, just Lemmy, clearly.

                Maybe this is a selfawarewolf post.....

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                We all went through phases of "I wanna be in the known!" Hell, it's basically UFO Obsession capitalised by the gov.

                But there's no "big secret". People just aren't ready to hear it and will continue to search for it.

                Normally I'd say give the guy a break... But he shows zero interest to change.

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                • C [email protected]

                  And it's better to agitate and busy people over theory and semantics rather than focus on the things they can do.

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                  I’m beginning to think you’re not looking for an answer to your question and that you’re just here to proselytize to the other side.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    It isn't that it contradicts any political biases. But, it's like, ok, enough, we get it, yawn, now for positive stuff like hobbies, fun stuff, not the same whinging circle jerk over and over again.

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                    You live with the privilege of focusing on things that make you happy. Other people are stressed AF rn.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      It's the exact thing I meant and didn't realise I had to be explicit as I thought this would be common knowledge amongst these vocal self-proclaimed worldly people. It happens with any extremist group, terrorist cells or potential threats to the government and where better to obtain such information than online? It's naive to think the world's governments don't also have a lemmy presence with relevant operations. "oh but we're too smol, they wouldn't bother waaahh" is exactly what such organisations would want the community to think.

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                      Yes I think i tended towards the latter view because I just don't see much real world action or organising going on here.

                      But some of the stuff posted does seem a bit sus - it's almost a caricature.
                      Even quite radical people usually have some ability to reason or engage in moderate discussion.

                      I guess it doesn't cost law enforcement much to keep an eye on this, and I'm sure lots of the terms used will flag in their webcrawlers and such.

                      A few spooks and a few bots can probably do quite a lot across a lot of different social media so really not hard for them to have some presence here for minimal effort.

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