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I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure.

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  • gargron@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

    doctorwhom@mastodon.socialD ellsinger@mastodon.socialE x@pol.socialX carrottop1023@mastodon.stickbear.meC angedestenebres@mastodon.tedomum.netA 26 Replies Last reply
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    • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

      I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

      doctorwhom@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Gargron

      Yea, it should be an option burred some place. But I got over it. I'm bothered that sometimes I cut&paste the URL and it get the `https://` though it wasn't highlighted when I cut it.

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      • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

        I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

        ellsinger@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Gargron you can activate it again by going to about:config and searching for browser.urlbar.trimURLs, set it to false.

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        • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

          I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

          x@pol.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Gargron imho it's a good step, as there still are plenty of websites and systems that do not use https.

          You might change it in a config but you 've already known this.

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          • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

            I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

            carrottop1023@mastodon.stickbear.meC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Gargron Interesting, my firefox is still showing https yet, I just got an updated version of the browser.

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            • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

              I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

              angedestenebres@mastodon.tedomum.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Gargron Yeah ! I noticed that too with the version 140.

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              • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Gargron and it doesn't help that the padlock and other components on the address bar is just slightly darker grey on a grey background (at least on my system, with Firefox 140.0).

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                • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                  I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                  strigohabro@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Gargron Oh ... yeah, yesterday i noticed an odd behaviour, when i tried to "mark and copy" an URL from the adress bar. Suddenly, the text jumped sideways. It never did that before.

                  I am not fond of that change too. It is an attempt to hide information, and it does not matter, if there's some kind of symbol for it.

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                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                    I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                    annyjoe@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Gargron
                    I get a pop-up if I try to go to a site without https, so showing it is redundant.

                    Not sure if that's a Firefox thing, or one of the plugins.

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                    • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                      I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                      yv@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Gargron In my case, what you describe after the update to 140 did not happen. But there are one (or two) settings relevant in the About:config screen.
                      I once changed the browser.urlbar.trimURL setting to "False" (as it should be 🙂 ). That setting was not altered to the default "true" in my case.
                      That setting alters both the displaying of http:// and https:// to display it or not.

                      There is also the setting: browser.urlbar.trimHttps
                      That only focuses itself to https. 1/2

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                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                        I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                        petko@social.petko.meP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Gargron do you consider this to be false? A site *can* be insecure even over HTTPS. It *is* insecure if it is over HTTP, and firefox is displaying this for me:

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                        • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                          I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                          chapz@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Gargron Secure is the default expectation. Open a http site and see how the browser behaves. I would expect a lot of clear signs, that the page is insecure without needing to see http in the address bar.

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                          • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                            I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                            zekovski@pouet.chapril.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Gargron
                            I use the extension https everywhere.
                            So I get notified when a website is only http. Might help your problem.

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                            • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                              I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                              epicdemiologist@wandering.shopE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Gargron Must have been part of the update I keep refusing; mine still shows the https. Good to know. (I'm running 137.0.2)

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                              • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                                I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                                marcintosh@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Gargron Why show the protocol at all if they’re not going to differentiate? 🤔

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                                • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                                  I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                                  jon@social.vivaldi.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Gargron , I would have thought there is a setting for this. In @Vivaldi there is.

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                                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                                    I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                                    davidblue@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Gargron almost positive showing full urls int he address bar always is a flag? it definitey is in chromium.

                                    I get what you're saying though... I feel (and have long felt) quite strongly that there is zero reasonable case for obscuring any one part of a given url/path and the *only* result is this sort of confusion.

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                                    • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                                      I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                                      kimmoahokas@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Gargron I think browsers started removing https indicators around 2019. Generally people don’t notice something like the padlock is missing, so they are instead going to mark it red if site is not https. As certificates have become free and something like 99% internet is https I think that makes 100% sense.

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                                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                                        I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                                        toddalstrom@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @Gargron But the red line through the padlock, “not secure” callout, and “http://” in the address bar is very in your face when visiting a connection that’s not secure.

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                                        • gargron@mastodon.socialG [email protected]

                                          I don't know how recent this change is but I noticed #Firefox removed https:// from the address bar so now every link and every website I visit looks insecure. I know there is a padlock icon next to the address bar but it doesn't seem quite as easily scannable to me.

                                          ekpyroticfrood@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Gargron What frustrates me most is if you select it and copy and paste it, the "http://" or "https://" is i the pasted text.
                                          How do I copy without that? You cannot. It is bad user experience to put something in your paste buffer that you didn't highlight. (I also honestly felt it was good for users to see "https://" because it reminds people that there is a network here. It also opens the door to using other protocols without confusing people too much.)

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