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  • deebster@infosec.pubD [email protected]

    Interesting stuff about the plugs, thanks.

    I did quickly fact-check myself after posting and my brief reading suggested that it was possible to break the port, motherboard, or the peripheral, but that it was rare and more likely to cause corruption and/or crashes.

    E.g. some anecdata in https://superuser.com/questions/172420/is-it-safe-to-hot-swap-a-ps-2-keyboard and https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/50883/why-some-computer-peripherals-should-not-be-disconnected-without-turning-off-thi

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    and more likely to cause corruption and/or crashes.

    Yeah, that's the neat trick they basically solved by making the power connectors longer. If everything connects at the same time, you connect the data lines while power is still coming up, meaning there's a few milliseconds of data that you can't really trust. If the hardware and software on the other side is designed to "trust" the data from the keyboard, who knows what could happen. Probably not something that breaks the hardware, but definitely something that can result in unexpected data for the software.

    But, just by adding a few millimeters to the power lines, you give a few milliseconds of power getting stable before data is attached, and that's enough for things to be nice and stable.

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    • T [email protected]

      We had flat ribbon. We used that exact unit for the atari. You screwed them into the back.

      The typical ol' "garage" b&w tended to have them too, last tv i owned with one was this century

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      Thanks, this helps me feel younger.

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      • grozzle@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

        no search results relevant to this.

        do you mean a card as in a pc hardware ISA / PCI device, or like a paper overlay card with reminders for button actions?

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        ok I must be losing my mind then. I could have sworn it required something like this: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31qtoUfewyL.jpg I remember as a kid going to a babages and picking up a copy and a guy was like "does your computer have a keyboard card? otherwise it wont' work" and then I swore it was also stated on the box....but christ now I might have just been dreaming it.

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          Are these not still in use?

          I've not built a tower in a few years granted, but the last one I built had PS2 ports. Heck it even had VGA for the onboard graphics.

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            I'm this old

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            The ol' RS232?

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            • F [email protected]

              still is

              /i3gang

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              DEFINITELY optional

              go go gadget commandline

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                Not really? I mean it was a whole thing. OS/2, PS/2, I think maybe some PC/2? I can't remember. Anyway it was all branded together.

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                missed opportunity for the mainframes to be "system/2" and not "system/360"

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                • M [email protected]

                  My brother in Christ, I also used this

                  And I'm 17

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                  the computers at my first school still used ps/2 regularly when i went there and im 15.....

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                    i have a gaming pc built this decade that has both of those ports dude

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                      My first PC was a Timex Sinclair 1000 and I wrote a text-based choose your own adventure game in basic for it and saved the program on audio cassette.

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                        Shit. I know what this is. Goddammit.

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                        Sorry bro

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                          The ol' RS232?

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                          No, this is the rs232 connector (officially the DB9)

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                          • obinice@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                            Are these not still in use?

                            I've not built a tower in a few years granted, but the last one I built had PS2 ports. Heck it even had VGA for the onboard graphics.

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                            They are. Lots of motherboards still include these.There are a lot of special PS/2 input devices that are still around in business/industrial settings and gamers sometimes need them for use with flight sticks, steering wheels, mechanical keyboards etc.

                            Usually it's a combo port now instead of a separate port for keyboard/mouse.

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                              i have a gaming pc built this decade that has both of those ports dude

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                              People knew what I meant when I would verbally say PS/2 in conversation, then people started thinking they were USB because that's what was used in their PlayStation 2

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                                I actually wanted a PS2 port because it works with interrupts rather than polling but they aren't really included anymore.

                                I feel like they don't make boards for people like me who want small boards with a super niche port.

                                When a MoDT Mini-ITX board comes out with a PS2 port I will buy that instantly

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                                Listen up, computer, I'm typing NOW. Not whenever you get around to polling the USB device. Sheesh.

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                                  My first PC was a Timex Sinclair 1000 and I wrote a text-based choose your own adventure game in basic for it and saved the program on audio cassette.

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                                  my "first" pc was a pc xt dad had in the basement. actually no because i didnt own it (so technically my first was a 2008 netbook) but i did use it quite some times before mom gave me her old netbook so i still count it

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                                  • toribor@corndog.socialT [email protected]

                                    They are. Lots of motherboards still include these.There are a lot of special PS/2 input devices that are still around in business/industrial settings and gamers sometimes need them for use with flight sticks, steering wheels, mechanical keyboards etc.

                                    Usually it's a combo port now instead of a separate port for keyboard/mouse.

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                                    ive only seen them as separate ports tho even in recent pcs

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                                      Nothing civilized about no hot plugging. Had to restart the whole damn computer, if the cable was loose or out at startup.

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                                      Quote joke referencing Obi Wan Kenobi...

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                                        Quote joke referencing Obi Wan Kenobi...

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                                        If you only knew the power of the hot plug!

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          Good stuff, was imagining a 30 year old mouse with 30 year old crud! 🤮

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                                          Its 30 years old for sure, but its cleaned every other week or so!

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