Please remember to spread the word about this :(
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I mean, oxygen is the most aggressive oxidator, to the point we named the process after it.
F you.
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Imagine what it can do to software
It can document it!
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F you.
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Brought to you by the highest oxidation gang.
:::wrote on last edited by [email protected]And if you meet flourine out on the wild, you will be F'ed. It will bind itself to you without your consent or caring about things like essential biological processes for life.
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I always think this when I see those annoying posts about diet coke dissolving screws.
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There's a whole website dedicated to raising awareness of its danger : https://www.dhmo.org/
The funny (and scary) thing is how many conspiracy theorists will not get the joke or realize it's water.
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Pure oxygen is actually toxic for humans, leading to hyperoxia. People who breath pure oxygen such as scuba divers need specific training.
Oxygen toxicity - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity
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There are quite a few sci-fi stories and short stories built on a similar concept. One of my favorites is an alien ship lands on a random farm in the US and (leaving a lot of details out, read the book!) it comes to light that the aliens normally live at insanely hot temperatures like 900F (480C) and consider Earth an "Ice World" (that's also the name of the book). Anyway, one of the catches in the book is that farmer figures out the alien wants to trade (again skipping a lot of details) but all he has on him that he can give up is a cigarette (the farmer doesn't know it's super hot inside the ship). He does the trade and we later find out that most of the galaxy is INSANELY vulnerable to being 100% completely utterly addicted to nicotine. When the alien took in the cigarette it instantly vaporized and sent the nicotine into the air and they breathed it and became instantly addicted worse than any opiod addiction IRL.
You didn’t mention the book name, so how are we to read it?
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Wel, every single human who breathes Oxygen dies eventually. Just saying.
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On the topic, as oxidation is a pretty prevalent negative side effect of living, our body has multiple mechanisms to deal with it, no? So my question is: where do the "antioxidants" that we can eat come into the picture here? Are they like preventing oxidation from even occurring, or are they like the shields that our cells use to protect themselves from oxidative stress, or what have you?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]we have enzymes to prevent oxygen radicals from forming. such as Superoxide dismutase, which is present in nearly every cell in our body, and we have 3 different version. most oxygen dependant organisms have similar enzymes.
another fun fact, our immune system can produce the same superoxide as a defense against bacterial infections, reactive oxygen species including radical oxygen. but bacteria can produce the enzyme to neutralize that too.
i think the dietary source, is somewhat alittle homeopathic/ pseudosciency, because our stomach acid would probably neutralize any beneficial effect before we can absorb it. of course there are some foods that provide nutrional benefit to certain cells(if they a chemical compound). but they dont have like anti-oxidant effect of something like superoxide dismutase. also because of this effect, people with chronic illness as a result of the dysfunction.
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Wel, every single human who breathes Oxygen dies eventually. Just saying.
So to not die, we just need to stop breathing !
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Unrelated but the bottom navbar in that screenshot makes me long for the Alien Blue days of Reddit. I also just miss that iOS design (along with the OS X Mavericks design)
Dude, I just had to use an old Mac with OS10.11 on it (I know not that old) to recover a laptop in target disk mode.
It still has the widgets!
I miss the widgets.
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Wel, every single human who breathes Oxygen dies eventually. Just saying.
It's a decent hypothesis, but you'll never gather enough data to convince the naysayers.
"The results just aren't in yet, look at all the people alive"
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Oxidation is the loss of electrons, whereas reduction is the gain of electrons. The mnemonic is OIL RIG: Oxidation Is Loss, Reduction Is Gain.
Oxygen is highly electronegative (second only to fluorine), meaning that it will strongly attract electrons. So, oxygen is good at oxidizing things. It's good at stealing their electrons. (When the oxygen takes the electron, the oxygen becomes reduced!)
The reason that oxygen is so important in your body for respiration is because of its high electronegativity. It is used as the final electron acceptor in a chain of chemical reactions that are used to convert high energy molecules that you've eaten into different high energy molecules that your body can use.
Think of the analogy of a staircase and a ball. The ball is an electron and the stairs are energy states of different molecules along the metabolic pathway. As the ball goes down the stairs, the electron loses energy (which is usually converted to ATP or NADH). At the bottom of the stairs is oxygen, once the electron gets there, it doesn't have anymore potential energy to lose, unless maybe you have some fluorine around. The final, reduced state of oxygen in this pathway is carbon dioxide. It's no longer useful for respiration and thankfully can just be exhaled. How convenient!
An oxygen missing an electron (an oxygen radical) is highly reactive. This is not good. It'll just steal an electron from whatever molecule is nearby. That may be DNA or any other molecule that it's in your best interest to keep intact. Antioxidants are helpful as electron donors, neutralizing radicals before they do damage.
Ok, I'm going to make a new nutritional supplement: "oops! all electrons!"
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It's a decent hypothesis, but you'll never gather enough data to convince the naysayers.
"The results just aren't in yet, look at all the people alive"
fair. I guess only history remains to prove me right.
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Pure oxygen is actually toxic for humans, leading to hyperoxia. People who breath pure oxygen such as scuba divers need specific training.
Oxygen toxicity - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity
wrote on last edited by [email protected]hyper - meaning high,
ox - meaning the animal Ox,
-ia - meaning presence in blood.
High Ox presence in blood. You can imagine how dangerous that is.
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The 'Death Breathers' thing is a primary plot point /story device / world mechanic of the ludicrous, over the top, MARS ATTACKS! from 1996.
::: spoiler Just any case anyone hasn't seen it and wants to avoid spoilers, don't open this
Basically, it barely makes any actual sense, and... thats part of the point, to be a parody of how stupid 50s schlock alien movies were...
The Martians only breathe Nitrogen, and seem to asphyxiate if their helmets and pressure suits are removed or comprimised.
This makes no fucking sense whatsoever for multiple reasons:
Nitrogen is much, much less chemically reactive than Oxygen, and it seems quite unlikely that any kind of Nitrogen based metabolism could evolve basically anywhere, in any organic being, because of this...
Earth's atmosphere is like... ~70% Nitrogen.
Do... they... need literally 100% Nitrogen?
It... doesn't seem like the oxygen in the atmosphere is like... causing them to internally combust/melt the way say mustard gas, chlorine gas, makes a human melt from the inside out, by nature of being way way way more chemically reactive than oxygen.
What they do is act like ... they're asphyxiating, they gasp for air, not cough and vomit, eyes watering and burning/melting the way mustard gas fucks up people.
Also, at one point, a ludicrously disguised as a human, martian... is able to go undercover, with no protective pressure suit... because they have... chewing gum, that... releases nitrogen.
Again, if oxygen had a similar effect on them as chlorine gas has on us... this disguised martian should... still be basically burning/melting from being exposed to all the oxygen, and thats overlooking the ludicrousness of... nitrogen releasing chewing gum
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You didn’t mention the book name, so how are we to read it?
I did say the name in my post... It's called Ice World and it's an older sci-fi book from either 50's or 60's. It's only about 200 pages long.
