I expected it to be more violent based on the title.
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Kidnapping comes with the threat of violence if you resist. She committed no crime so this is kidnapping.
People get arrested all the time who haven't committed a crime (which does not mean you have been found guilty yet). It's not considered kidnapping. And it does look like he shows his badge before going for her phone. And no, I don't think this was gone about correctly.
I don't know the back story so I'm not commenting on if she should have been taken in or not.
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I get that, but it's like you are commenting on how a rapist was not efficient in his raping... not sure there is any value in "how" something that should not have taken place, actually took place
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I expected it to be more violent based on the title. They actually, went up and explained to her what was happening. At the same time, it did seem kind of odd the way it was done, like they weren't professionals at this.
"Get in the van, there's candy" is also an explanation. But you probably shouldn't believe it when a masked individual is saying it and the van is unmarked.
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I get that, but it's like you are commenting on how a rapist was not efficient in his raping... not sure there is any value in "how" something that should not have taken place, actually took place
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"Get in the van, there's candy" is also an explanation. But you probably shouldn't believe it when a masked individual is saying it and the van is unmarked.
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People get arrested all the time who haven't committed a crime (which does not mean you have been found guilty yet). It's not considered kidnapping. And it does look like he shows his badge before going for her phone. And no, I don't think this was gone about correctly.
I don't know the back story so I'm not commenting on if she should have been taken in or not.
People who are arrested are either charged with a crime or are presenting an immediate and reasonable threat. None of these are the case here. This was absolutely a violation of her due process. Thats without even getting to the issue of her visa revocation.
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I agree, it doesn't seem to have been done the way it should have been.
Its just that based on the title I was expecting a van to drive up, open the door, shove her in, and drive off.
That's kind of a hollywood thing. It can certainly happen but an unsecured person in a van is a nightmare to deal with.
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Well, it does look like he shows her his badge as he's walking up to her. The mask thing is weird though.
Well, it does look like he shows her his badge as he’s walking up to her.
…not at all…? He has his hands in his pockets until he stops walking in front of her, then he takes out his open hand to tell her to stop, then he takes out the other to stop her from walking away. When do you think he showed her a badge?
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Well, it does look like he shows her his badge as he’s walking up to her.
…not at all…? He has his hands in his pockets until he stops walking in front of her, then he takes out his open hand to tell her to stop, then he takes out the other to stop her from walking away. When do you think he showed her a badge?
OK, I guess when I watched the video earlier today it was brighter and I couldn't see it as well. It looked like a badge was maybe in his hand as he walked towards her, but I can see now that it wasn't. It does look like the others pull there badges out though, and have them hanging from their necks as they approach.
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People get arrested all the time who haven't committed a crime (which does not mean you have been found guilty yet). It's not considered kidnapping. And it does look like he shows his badge before going for her phone. And no, I don't think this was gone about correctly.
I don't know the back story so I'm not commenting on if she should have been taken in or not.
Cops in most of those situations have probable cause to believe a crime has been committed. Not so here.
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