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Do you judge people for buying stuff that you're boycotting?

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    I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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    I judge people who claim to be boycotting something they were never planning on purchasing. That's like not collecting stamps as a hobby.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

      I've learned that the vast vast vast majority of people don't care. I can spend all my time hating everyone for being lazy and ordering daily items from Amazon, or eating Chick Fil A, or whatever, but I'll end up hating 99% of the population. I don't have time for that.

      All I can do is focus on myself and what I spend my money on. Sure I educate where I can, but you don't want to be the preachy person either, because they'll just start ignoring you. Do what you can, but if you're going to judge people for buying things - you're going to judge everyone - and then that's more on you.

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      Probably the most grounded answer here.

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      • D [email protected]

        I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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        Depends, how many people even know that in n' out is a hateful company? A lot of people know about Chick-fil-A, but shockingly, a lot of people don't know about Nestle. So yeah, I'll judge a person for buying Tesla or a bland chicken sandwich, but I'll just inform someone who buys an in n out burger or a crunch bar.

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          If you don't have to support terrible people and you knowingly do anyway, it's not going to be easy to make a discernment personally.

          I think a lot of people haven't come to the awareness that there is NO such thing as ethical consumption under our current systems tho (and you can't boycott everything bad without causing a lot more worse stuff.)

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          By strictly boycotting every evil company, you'd die of starvation or exposure. You just try to pick the least evil companies.

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            I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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            Judge… no… help to educate… try to be better myself… yes.

            Also, consider the part you’re saying “… many Internet forums…”.

            The same forums filled with random people… some of which have nothing better to do than bitch and complain… act better than others just because… preach their perspective because it’s “right”.

            Even Lemmy is not immune to “you’re a terrible person” syndrome.

            This question is never going to be black and white, regarding how or where people spend their money responsibly. Especially given the difficulty of knowing where some products originate, or what they are tied to, not just where you buy them from.

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            • D [email protected]

              I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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              I dont Judge unless the person actively talks about hating that thing. For example if someone is constantly going on about how they big tech and they havent even made a single step towards moving away then yeah im going to judge. Stand by your morals.

              I know someone who is always going on about how bad fast fashion is and she buys all her clothes from Shien to wear a few times. Like come on you cant expect your words to hold any weight when you say one thing and do another. I'd never say I support gay people's rights then give money to a gay people rights crushing machine.

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              • D [email protected]

                I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                Everyone has different values, different pieces of information (and different amounts of time to do research), and different resources.

                No, I don't judge people for not boycotting something I'm boycotting, though I'll mention it if it's going to cause a problem. For example, a friend is a massive fan of seeing things in theaters, including re-releases. If they want to see a re-release of Harry Potter, I'll decline, saying that I'm boycotting Rowling, and offer an alternative.

                However, if they've been saying that they're really for/against something and seem to be going to buy something from a company that opposes that view, I'll mention, "Hey, I don't know if you know, but they support XYZ." If they still have to get it, then it's none of my business: everyone has different needs and different resources.

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                • D [email protected]

                  I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                  Really depends on the reason. I will judge and call out anyone who gives a cent to JK Rowling, for example, whereas avoiding fast fashion is much harder.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                    Of course.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                      Buy a new Tesla now? You're a piece of shit. No exceptions.

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                        Chick fila a and hobby lobby for sure

                        Target will get a bit of leeway from me.

                        The other two are run by people who have actively funneled money towards shit like conversion therapy

                        Target, unless I've missed something, just kind of pulled their DEI initiatives, so while they're not doing anything to make the situation better for LGBTQ people, they're not trying to actively make shit worse for them either.

                        Also nothing chick fila a or hobby lobby sells is particularly essential, you don't need craft supplies and fast food. Target at least sells basic essentials like clothes, groceries, medications, etc. and sometimes they're the only or most affordable place in town to get those things, so I can't exactly begrudge people for shopping there for those things unless I know there's a better alternative.

                        If you can, you shouldn't shop at target of course, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

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                        I mean, Walmart is far worse than Target. People shit on Target now because they used to take a stand and then suddenly bailed like cowards. Walmart was born in evil, molded by it.

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                          I've learned that the vast vast vast majority of people don't care. I can spend all my time hating everyone for being lazy and ordering daily items from Amazon, or eating Chick Fil A, or whatever, but I'll end up hating 99% of the population. I don't have time for that.

                          All I can do is focus on myself and what I spend my money on. Sure I educate where I can, but you don't want to be the preachy person either, because they'll just start ignoring you. Do what you can, but if you're going to judge people for buying things - you're going to judge everyone - and then that's more on you.

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                          Agree. Except buying a new Tesla now. As a former Tesla owner, if you buy a new one now, fuck you. There is no excuse for ignorance here.

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                            Buy a new Tesla now? You're a piece of shit. No exceptions.

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                            So many Australian's buying Tesla's but as an Aussie I can only agree with you

                            https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/133?g=464

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                            • D [email protected]

                              I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                              The new Tesla model Y seems pretty great but I judge their drivers harshly. 100% of the people who drive one saw the nazi salute and still chose to buy a new car from him. If it weren't for Elon ruining everything he touches I would really want one. I judge cybertruck drivers too but not as harshly, many of them bought it before we knew he was a nazi and they just have terrible taste in cars.

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                                Everyone has different values, different pieces of information (and different amounts of time to do research), and different resources.

                                No, I don't judge people for not boycotting something I'm boycotting, though I'll mention it if it's going to cause a problem. For example, a friend is a massive fan of seeing things in theaters, including re-releases. If they want to see a re-release of Harry Potter, I'll decline, saying that I'm boycotting Rowling, and offer an alternative.

                                However, if they've been saying that they're really for/against something and seem to be going to buy something from a company that opposes that view, I'll mention, "Hey, I don't know if you know, but they support XYZ." If they still have to get it, then it's none of my business: everyone has different needs and different resources.

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                                It’s nice to see there’s still space for nuanced opinions on the internet.

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                                  It's one thing if they're ignorant of the company they're supporting but it they are knowingly supporting a morally bankrupt organization I judge them haaaard

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                                    I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                                    The few things I'm not buying out of principle are such that I wouldn't even know if someone else bought it or not. But no, I don't care. There's nothing I'm not buying because I think the company that produces it is literally Hitler.

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                                      I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                                      If they know better and there is no legit difficulty in not buying it then yes.

                                      There is no reason why you would have to buy Coca Cola, McDonalds or other trashfood supporting genocide. There is no reason why you would have to buy Israeli anything. There is no reason why you would have to buy brands a Reebok or pay for Microsoft games.

                                      Your employer forcing you to use Microsofot for work is a different matter.

                                      If you do nonetheless, where you have no need to, you are choosing to support genocide and that makes you a terrible person and in a just world you would have to face criminal charges for it and have your money taken away to compensate the victims.

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                                        I've learned that the vast vast vast majority of people don't care. I can spend all my time hating everyone for being lazy and ordering daily items from Amazon, or eating Chick Fil A, or whatever, but I'll end up hating 99% of the population. I don't have time for that.

                                        All I can do is focus on myself and what I spend my money on. Sure I educate where I can, but you don't want to be the preachy person either, because they'll just start ignoring you. Do what you can, but if you're going to judge people for buying things - you're going to judge everyone - and then that's more on you.

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                                        Would you not judge people for putting a gun to the head of a child and pulling the trigger?

                                        Because buying from some companies is paying the salary and the bullets of the people who do exactly that.

                                        When people are designated as "terrorists" you can even be held criminally liable under the current system, if you keep doing business with them. Shouldnt the same standard apply for people doing business with genocide?

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                                          I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                                          Family member wanted to go to a store that was in the same strip mall as a Hobby Lobby and I was sitting in the car hating everybody that I saw going into that Christofascist rat den. Those assholes are part of the reason healthcare and insurance is so fucking abysmal and hostile to women.

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