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They'd defend themselves by saying you can just turn them away, while completely ignoring that they can choose to not consume media with queer people in it. And when they whine that the problem is that it's in too much stuff now and they can't avoid it, they're once again trying to control what's in media and they've gone full circle.
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Religious people are objectively the worst.
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Religious people are objectively the worst.
The Mormons claim to want to help with anything right? What if I asked them to help teach tolerance and empathy to the maga?
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can we talk about our lord and saviour prostate orgasming
Is it really so awesome as they claim?
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The response is always "having a choice means you are bisexual."
Time to relax my sphincter.
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Not to get too serious, given the topic and the community I'm in, but...
There's a saying along the lines of "You can't reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into." And the overwhelming majority of the time, it's completely true.
Ridiculous as it sounds, there are large numbers of people out there who believe that being gay is a choice. These people legitimately feel like any recognition and representation of homosexuality risks turning people gay.
You can spend all the time you want asking them when they chose to be straight and logically explaining things to them, it almost certainly will not matter.
It's not true, but the way it plays out makes people think otherwise.
There are tons of first gen atheists who came from deeply fundamentalist families, and often believed everything well into adulthood. To name two examples, Bart Ehrman and Genetically Modified Skeptic.
What won't happen is changing someone over the course of a single debate. They will come up with all sorts of mental gymnastics right on the spot. However, conversations like that do add up over time. An otherwise inquisitive mind will find a way eventually.
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Sithrak is the only true god.
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Time to relax my sphincter.
Let the lord in.
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The Steven Crowder Defense is a classic
the most offensive lines (and this is where trans people might want to stop reading) in the episode come from Garrison herself, when she becomes incensed that she can’t get her period or get pregnant. “This would mean I’m not really a woman. I’m just a guy with a mutilated penis,” Garrison says. “You made me into a freak.”
Really comedy gold
"Just because you'd offended doesn't mean you're right."
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Not to get too serious, given the topic and the community I'm in, but...
There's a saying along the lines of "You can't reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into." And the overwhelming majority of the time, it's completely true.
Ridiculous as it sounds, there are large numbers of people out there who believe that being gay is a choice. These people legitimately feel like any recognition and representation of homosexuality risks turning people gay.
You can spend all the time you want asking them when they chose to be straight and logically explaining things to them, it almost certainly will not matter.
There are large numbers of incredibility stupid/ignorant/propagandized people out there who believe that being gay is a choice - FTFY.
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That is true, however, I think the resolution influences the result. I can be wrong, but there isn't really an experiment where someone tries to convince kids to be gay and see the outcome. It's just become forbidden to think this amongst the progressives for no reason.
No, but they've tried the reverse. They've tried and tried convincing gay people to be straight and it doesn't work. That's not how it works.
If you think you have a choice to be one way or the other, then you do. Because you're bi.
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"Just because you'd offended doesn't mean you're right."
offensive
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Is it really so awesome as they claim?
have a pamphlet
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That is true, however, I think the resolution influences the result. I can be wrong, but there isn't really an experiment where someone tries to convince kids to be gay and see the outcome. It's just become forbidden to think this amongst the progressives for no reason.
Such an experiment would be highly unethical and of doubtful interest. After all, you already know sexuality develops without influence, is it useful to know if it develops differently under pressure? To do so it requires to possibly ruin people's live, that's why it's not done.
Also, we already have the opposite experience: gays being convinced to be straight. As far as I know, it doesn't really work and only creates suppressed emotions that ruins their sexuality.
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Such an experiment would be highly unethical and of doubtful interest. After all, you already know sexuality develops without influence, is it useful to know if it develops differently under pressure? To do so it requires to possibly ruin people's live, that's why it's not done.
Also, we already have the opposite experience: gays being convinced to be straight. As far as I know, it doesn't really work and only creates suppressed emotions that ruins their sexuality.
That's no different from growing up in a straight world. So that's why it doesn't have an effect.
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The response is always "having a choice means you are bisexual."
Yeah, clearly. My similar answer has always been "Huh. It's not a choice for me... Are you actively choosing not to be gay right now?"
It's sad, but if you are constantly resisting the urge to be gay... you might be kinda gay. You might be happier if you stop fighting it.
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Sithrak is the only true god.
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P.S. Thanks for linking to Oglaf, it's been way too long and I had forgotten about it.
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One day I was headed to my car to go somewhere. A zealot intercepted me and wanted to proselytize to me. I told him thank you but no thank you. He was all like "But have you heard about Jesus Christ?" I said that I was raised a Christian and knew all about it, but I reject it. He still was trying to argue with me so I finally just said "Have a nice day" and walked away as he was still trying to reconvert me. Some of them simply can't believe you know what they are about but don't buy into it.
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so what about gay religious people? i mean two well groomed men on bikes traveling in unison...
