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Adblockers stop publishers serving ads to (or even seeing) 1bn web users - Press Gazette

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  • M [email protected]

    I feel like one thing doesn't get talked about enough is that websites feel the need to implement ad services that want to track the user in order to serve ads. Which I just find weird, the expectation to give up ones privacy, just to get served an ad.

    Instead, the ads should just be relevant to the content of the page where an ad is embedded, which would automatically make it relevant to the reader, without tracking them.

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    I'm sorry for being a broken record in this thread but holy crap yes! Right now you can embed a static ad in a web page relevant to the page's content and adblockers will not block it!

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    • 4 [email protected]

      Any good guides you know of to set that up?

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      Besides Pi-hole, there's Adguard. The "home" version works just like Pi-hole on a device on your network (but is a little slicker in my opinion), and a DNS service where you just set your router's or devices DNS to their service (less private, but no dedicated device required). That's an option that is not ideal, but far better than not blocking at the DNS level for anyone uncomfortable configuring a device on their network.

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      • G [email protected]

        Seeing static banner ads on 2000s websites without popups or tracking: 🤷‍♂️

        Blocking ads on Firefox after popups and other crap started: 😀

        Browsing the internet on Android before I realised the browser supports addons: 🤮

        Blocking ads and tracking on Android via uBlock origin and Privacy Badger: 😀👍

        My feeling of guilt when scummy megacorporations miss out on ad revenue:

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        There are a couple of steps missing at the beginning. There was a time when we only blocked popups; other types of ad were fine, but popups were annoying enough that they needed special attention, and the popup-blocker was usually built-in to the browser without needing an extension. It took a couple of years for the non-popup types of ads to become obnoxious enough to warrant blocking.

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        • T [email protected]

          I used to maintain a website for a bicycling club in my county that was great for getting people into biking, getting people out the house, making friends, and staying fit.

          We had a banner ad along the top of the site for a local bicycle/bicycle repair shop that aided the club a lot and was very reasonable.

          He got something out of it (publicity and a seal of approval towards the value/quality of his work), and we got something out of it (money to run the site, and a bit left over for things like puncture repair kits and the occasional celebratory drink after an arduous ride).

          Nobody bats an eyelid to those ads. They are reasonable.

          What we have now isn't that. What we have now is an insecure, malware-infested privacy nightmare that ruins webpages and stresses everybody out.

          Use Firefox + uBlock origin for your own sanity. Don't let big tech make you feel guilty for not going along with their game.

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          Use Firefox + uBlock origin for your own sanity. Don’t let big tech make you feel guilty for not going along with their game.

          100% this and also, consider allow-listing specific sites which deserve your support, or better yet, contribute directly if you can – e.g. your local bike club forum, your local newspaper, a blogger whose work you enjoy, etc., assuming of course, the ads are reasonable.

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          • L [email protected]

            All ad networks, even the less intrusive ones, can be abused to distribute malware. In this day and age not having an ad blocker is like rawdogging internet strangers.

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            #173

            You could say the same thing about the webpage itself.

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            • T [email protected]

              the web will die.

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              Maybe, but then who will supply the answers that Ai needs?

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              • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                Maybe, but then who will supply the answers that Ai needs?

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                the AIs will just start their own circle jerks

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                • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                  They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                  Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                  I'm wondering if Gopher should make a comeback ?
                  Gemini is a thing so, well you know.....

                  For those who don't know, they're alternative internet protocols similar to HTTP

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                  • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                    "Son, are those ads in my house!?"

                    dad, please, it's only a little marketing!

                    "NO SON OF MINE! GET MY BELT!"

                    dad, no!

                    "What's our DNS address!?"

                    dad, I don't kno-

                    "Count the licks, boy! I'll teach you the hard way!"

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                    Wow. That is pretty violent. I do not envy your son.

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                    • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                      Wow. That is pretty violent. I do not envy your son.

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                      Alternate reality foss religions were not on my imagination list this morning but there ya go

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                      • wraithgear@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                        “And Scott Messer, founder of publishing adtech consultancy Messer Media, added: “Dark traffic is unlike anything we have seen before. It’s demonetising publisher content at scale without user consent.

                        “Publishers already face an existential-level threat in the face of AI reducing referral traffic. This is another slice that publishers cannot afford to lose.””

                        https://youtu.be/ZTt-kfPvRks

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                        #179

                        "Without user consent" is a load of crap.

                        Honestly the scale makes me wonder how much is because it's fucking AI bots.

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                        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                          They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                          Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                          Millenials are killing the ad industry!

                          Good.

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                          • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                            Alternate reality foss religions were not on my imagination list this morning but there ya go

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                            Ah somehow I knew religion must be involved to be so violent. Luckily I am not religious and my son could not be happier.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              I used to maintain a website for a bicycling club in my county that was great for getting people into biking, getting people out the house, making friends, and staying fit.

                              We had a banner ad along the top of the site for a local bicycle/bicycle repair shop that aided the club a lot and was very reasonable.

                              He got something out of it (publicity and a seal of approval towards the value/quality of his work), and we got something out of it (money to run the site, and a bit left over for things like puncture repair kits and the occasional celebratory drink after an arduous ride).

                              Nobody bats an eyelid to those ads. They are reasonable.

                              What we have now isn't that. What we have now is an insecure, malware-infested privacy nightmare that ruins webpages and stresses everybody out.

                              Use Firefox + uBlock origin for your own sanity. Don't let big tech make you feel guilty for not going along with their game.

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                              Guilty? Hahahahahaha

                              They will never make me feel guilty because they are the guilty ones. Guilty of greed and of destroying our society. Fuck big advetisers. They would put billboards in outre space if they thought it would make them a tenth of a penny more in profit.

                              I dont even consider them human to be honest.

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                              • kayohtie@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                "Without user consent" is a load of crap.

                                Honestly the scale makes me wonder how much is because it's fucking AI bots.

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                                listen, if browsers just block ads as a matter of their existence and the average joe is unaware they are blocking ads, then all the better. this article references a poll that specifically asks if the users know they are hard blocking ads, and just under half say they were not. which is good news, as that is farther reach then what user competency rates would have got. i am just taking that poll at face value.

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                                • wraithgear@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                  “And Scott Messer, founder of publishing adtech consultancy Messer Media, added: “Dark traffic is unlike anything we have seen before. It’s demonetising publisher content at scale without user consent.

                                  “Publishers already face an existential-level threat in the face of AI reducing referral traffic. This is another slice that publishers cannot afford to lose.””

                                  https://youtu.be/ZTt-kfPvRks

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                                  Good, I hope they go the way of the telegraph and whale oil salesman.

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                                  • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                                    Ah somehow I knew religion must be involved to be so violent. Luckily I am not religious and my son could not be happier.

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                                    I am overwhelmingly happy for both of you.

                                    I was raised Baptist. Don't recommend it.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      I actually like how people are again on the wave of understanding that anarchism is right even if you've voluntarily consented to hierarchy. And other similar things.

                                      Sometimes you need to break rules. Entropy and life are more important.

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                                      One could only dream my friend. One day we will all help and care for each other.

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                                      • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                        They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                        Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                        If we could figure out how to block ads on TV we might actually still bother posting for cable again. I'm the mean time, fuck 'em, they're too rich as it is.

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                                        • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                          I'm wondering if Gopher should make a comeback ?
                                          Gemini is a thing so, well you know.....

                                          For those who don't know, they're alternative internet protocols similar to HTTP

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                                          Or just a protocol like Web Monetization where you put an amount of money you choose into a pot on your browser and it's handed out to sites you visit based on how much time you spend on a given site, with options to denylist sites from payment as needed

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