men of Lemmy: do you like vegetables, and optionally, what is your sexuality
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This entire question says WAY more about your own sexuality and prejudices than it does your supposed target audience.
I think OP is seeing the wrong correlation in a very not-all-rectangles-are-square sort-of-way. The correct attribution being the type of people who engage with the culture war (with some ties to masculinity or status).
My parents eat way too much meat (even though they often get tired of it, especially when it's primarily cooked meat) and are the type of people who would say with a straight face that a side of edamame (soybeans) is basically HRT. They do eat vegetables but it's still very meat-and-potato centric, less vegetable if I wasn't always pushing for it (including proving to them that roasted carrots are good).
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nuanced answers are allowed and encouraged
eta: this question came up in the work group chat and I noticed the gay guys responded more favorably to vegetables so I'm just curious if it's an actual thing or just anecdotal
Only penis shaped ones that fit in my bussy and I’m hetero. Why?
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I think OP is seeing the wrong correlation in a very not-all-rectangles-are-square sort-of-way. The correct attribution being the type of people who engage with the culture war (with some ties to masculinity or status).
My parents eat way too much meat (even though they often get tired of it, especially when it's primarily cooked meat) and are the type of people who would say with a straight face that a side of edamame (soybeans) is basically HRT. They do eat vegetables but it's still very meat-and-potato centric, less vegetable if I wasn't always pushing for it (including proving to them that roasted carrots are good).
Fully agree. I also come from a similar background, with the added irony that we were in agriculture country where they all grew soybeans while saying that stuff with a straight face
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nuanced answers are allowed and encouraged
eta: this question came up in the work group chat and I noticed the gay guys responded more favorably to vegetables so I'm just curious if it's an actual thing or just anecdotal
I have no data for this, so i'm just speculating wildly (and accepting this will be a unpopular conjecture):
Lemmas - Things I have data for
- Metabolic dysfunction is endemic in the population (96% westerners)
- Metabolic dysfunction impacts hormones, especially sex hormones
- Aromatase happens at elevated levels in metabolically compromised people
- This can manifest as man-boobs, love-handles, chin hair, etc
- Metabolic dysfunction is principally caused by diet.
Speculation - Things I have no data for
- There is probably some connection between sexuality and hormones
- There is probably some connection between sexuality and life-long diets
This means there might be a interesting correlation you could discover. However, I don't think anyone would fund this type of research, or publish it - it would cause controversy needlessly.
Seeing a population prefer vegetables doesn't speak to cause and effect, it could be a cultural appreciation for being healthy and vegetables are mostly seen as healthy by most groups.
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it's from a discussion at work that spawned from "do men like veggies" and I noticed that the gay guys answered more favorably to vegetables, so I'm curious if it's just a coincidence lol
Well there is a cultural thread out there that meat eating is masculine and vegetables are not, which certain macho types subscribe to, and even some not exactly macho types have been influenced by during their upbringing. So I would certainly expect a correlation, and have observed one. You don't need to subscribe to this thread to understand it exists. It would be interesting to see data. I'd like to think we would see a trend of it weakening across the generations.
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nuanced answers are allowed and encouraged
eta: this question came up in the work group chat and I noticed the gay guys responded more favorably to vegetables so I'm just curious if it's an actual thing or just anecdotal
I'm a completely straight man. I like vegetables. But I don't like mint chocolate.
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This entire question says WAY more about your own sexuality and prejudices than it does your supposed target audience.
im bisexual and im middling to positive on veggies, and so is the other bi person in the work chat who responded lol. most of my friends are queer in some way, and it did trend towards the heterosexual/hetero flexible friends disliking vegetables more. the funniest correlation here is that both of my pansexual friends have major food allergies lol
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I think OP is seeing the wrong correlation in a very not-all-rectangles-are-square sort-of-way. The correct attribution being the type of people who engage with the culture war (with some ties to masculinity or status).
My parents eat way too much meat (even though they often get tired of it, especially when it's primarily cooked meat) and are the type of people who would say with a straight face that a side of edamame (soybeans) is basically HRT. They do eat vegetables but it's still very meat-and-potato centric, less vegetable if I wasn't always pushing for it (including proving to them that roasted carrots are good).
Yeah, it did cross my mind that guys who are already outside the stereotypical masculine identity are more likely to engage in other behaviors that defy the stereotypes. I had a pretty small sample size at work, so I was curious curious how much of a coincidence it was
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I have no data for this, so i'm just speculating wildly (and accepting this will be a unpopular conjecture):
Lemmas - Things I have data for
- Metabolic dysfunction is endemic in the population (96% westerners)
- Metabolic dysfunction impacts hormones, especially sex hormones
- Aromatase happens at elevated levels in metabolically compromised people
- This can manifest as man-boobs, love-handles, chin hair, etc
- Metabolic dysfunction is principally caused by diet.
Speculation - Things I have no data for
- There is probably some connection between sexuality and hormones
- There is probably some connection between sexuality and life-long diets
This means there might be a interesting correlation you could discover. However, I don't think anyone would fund this type of research, or publish it - it would cause controversy needlessly.
Seeing a population prefer vegetables doesn't speak to cause and effect, it could be a cultural appreciation for being healthy and vegetables are mostly seen as healthy by most groups.
Oh yeah, I know this will never be an official study lol. And I don't think being gay = liking vegetables, I just like data and wanna see if there's any actual correlation or if it's just a coincidence that the three gay guys at my job just coincidentally appreciate more food
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Well there is a cultural thread out there that meat eating is masculine and vegetables are not, which certain macho types subscribe to, and even some not exactly macho types have been influenced by during their upbringing. So I would certainly expect a correlation, and have observed one. You don't need to subscribe to this thread to understand it exists. It would be interesting to see data. I'd like to think we would see a trend of it weakening across the generations.
that was my thought too! I know there will never be a study done on this, but I would also like data (god I love data)
