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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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    I'm choosing to abstain because it's shit. The ethical things are just a bonus. It produces inaccurate information and bland soulless images.

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    It doesn't produce information, it produces text. Expecting that text to contain information is a fools errand

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    • gnulinuxdude@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

      I also try, but it is invoked on my behalf. For instance, at work if I make a pull request now multiple AI bots are summoned to give an analysis of my code changes. It's extremely verbose and annoying, and I think basically nobody reads it because all it does is just spam the comments section with way too much text.

      I vehemently hate OpenAI, ChatGPT, et al. At least it's funny when it summarizes my changes as significant improvements that improve code maintainability. I guess getting glazed by the bot in a way my manager can see is helpful to my career? Though honestly he probably also doesn't read that shit. So glad all this energy is wasted for nothing.

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      It is sickening how much slop is created that will never even be looked at.

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      • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
        • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
        • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
        • Recycling: waste vegans.
        • Solar power: power vegans.

        The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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        • Cyclists: transport vegans
        • Hippies: war vegans
        • Vegans: food vegans
        • Lemmy users: social media vegans
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          If anyone says the words "AI Vegan" to my face, I'm throwing shit.

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          • D [email protected]

            "Theres no fucking gun to your head."
            Bosses: 🦜🤖 🟰💹, 👨‍💼🔫🤓

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            Not just bosses. Tech companies have leveraged a good portion of the world's economy on AI, and are shoveling money directly into the ovens to shove it down our throats.

            No one asked for any of this. Not a goddamn soul asked for AI order takers at McDonald's. Because it's not about choice. The choice to abstain is going to get more and more painful to make as time goes on. By design.

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            • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

              It's not cool to use "vegan" like this.

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              Got a good chuckle out of me tho

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              • G [email protected]

                The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they've thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don't know how to monetize it.

                There's going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it's weird not to use it constantly

                It's going to go horribly and come off like that "fellow kids" meme, exactly like this headline

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                MBA dweebs running VC firms wanna desperately replace people with AI for short term profits.

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                  today I was trying to find how to manipulate a trunk on an aruba switch and JFK the internet search results were fucking shit on a platter! I tried to reword it in ways that might give me a better result but it never happened. None of the commands the AI suggested would have worked.

                  I FUCKING HATE AI results in the web searching tools

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                    It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

                    Whole new level.

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                    Seems to me you‘re a BS vegan.

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                    • myopinion@lemmy.todayM [email protected]

                      I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.

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                      I hate this attitude from people who don’t even try things before saying they are not missing out. Try AI! You have to experience the head bashing, head scratching time sink, after which you do a manual search anyways. It is a marvellous wonder how bad modern "cutting edge" tech can be.

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                      • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgT [email protected]

                        today I was trying to find how to manipulate a trunk on an aruba switch and JFK the internet search results were fucking shit on a platter! I tried to reword it in ways that might give me a better result but it never happened. None of the commands the AI suggested would have worked.

                        I FUCKING HATE AI results in the web searching tools

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                        HEre's a tip, paste the chapter index from the manual in it, ask "which chapter are relevant to " $question
                        Then paste the chapter it asks, then formulate your question
                        The AI search result though, useless because they're contextless, it's like a car without a steering wheel.

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                          I prefer Neo-Luddite. There's a few aspects of modern tech I eschew - AI/LLM bring one of them.

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                          • rhythmisaprancer@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                            freegan

                            If they had come up with something original like that, it would have been better. But creating constructive neologisms takes work, I guess.

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                            Try if one of the following strikes your fancy

                            AIniks
                            NoBots
                            Cogclean
                            Algorejects
                            Synthephobes

                            I quite like synthephobes !

                            Synthless
                            Cogstainers
                            Analogians

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                              Try if one of the following strikes your fancy

                              AIniks
                              NoBots
                              Cogclean
                              Algorejects
                              Synthephobes

                              I quite like synthephobes !

                              Synthless
                              Cogstainers
                              Analogians

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                              I'm not sure if AInik works, wouldn't that mean they are a fan of AI? Also unsure of the synth- options as a friend of synthesizer musicians, but as a non musician maybe I should use that myself 🤔 I can't interpret analogian without help...

                              But the others sound pretty great! Cogstainers is awesome because it can be reworked into different word types. Verbs, adjectives. Incredible.

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                                I'm not sure if AInik works, wouldn't that mean they are a fan of AI? Also unsure of the synth- options as a friend of synthesizer musicians, but as a non musician maybe I should use that myself 🤔 I can't interpret analogian without help...

                                But the others sound pretty great! Cogstainers is awesome because it can be reworked into different word types. Verbs, adjectives. Incredible.

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                                AIniks, it's something like refusenik, chainik and beatnikm yeah I'm not sure if it's anti, or pro or something else, it's also hard to say

                                I think analogian just sounds like vegan and it's for people who prefer analog meatbased wetware.

                                Synth- as in synthetic, against synthetic fakeness

                                A cogstaining synthless analogian

                                Synthfree ?

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                                  This is such a stupid name for this.

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                                    If anyone says the words "AI Vegan" to my face, I'm throwing shit.

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                                    Make sure to wash your hands after.

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                                      On my list of "dont's", inspired by Luke Smith, I do not use AI.

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                                        I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".

                                        Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          I can't say I'm a (normal) vegan, but I'm definitely an AI vegan. I was turned off by the ethical considerations, and the few "bites" I have tried leave a bad taste in my mouth. I avoid using it because much of the training data was (and is) stolen, the power costs are far too high compared to the utility, and it's basically worthless to me, having a screwed up response to nearly every prompt I tried.

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                                          Exactly the same as me.

                                          Love me a good steak, never even tried AI.

                                          I've stood by while my colleagues have used it. I ask them a question they might know, just to check before I start spending time reading documentation. They'll go "just ask Bing!" (Company endorsed AI.)

                                          They'll keep prompting and prompting and discussing the results, meanwhile I just go directly to the docs and find the information right there written on the screen.

                                          I won't subject myself to the dumbification. I don't even use copilot to auto-complete as much as a for loop. I know how it's written, damnit.

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