Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons
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today I was trying to find how to manipulate a trunk on an aruba switch and JFK the internet search results were fucking shit on a platter! I tried to reword it in ways that might give me a better result but it never happened. None of the commands the AI suggested would have worked.
I FUCKING HATE AI results in the web searching tools
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It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”
Whole new level.
Seems to me you‘re a BS vegan.
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I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.
I hate this attitude from people who don’t even try things before saying they are not missing out. Try AI! You have to experience the head bashing, head scratching time sink, after which you do a manual search anyways. It is a marvellous wonder how bad modern "cutting edge" tech can be.
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today I was trying to find how to manipulate a trunk on an aruba switch and JFK the internet search results were fucking shit on a platter! I tried to reword it in ways that might give me a better result but it never happened. None of the commands the AI suggested would have worked.
I FUCKING HATE AI results in the web searching tools
HEre's a tip, paste the chapter index from the manual in it, ask "which chapter are relevant to " $question
Then paste the chapter it asks, then formulate your question
The AI search result though, useless because they're contextless, it's like a car without a steering wheel. -
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If they had come up with something original like that, it would have been better. But creating constructive neologisms takes work, I guess.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Try if one of the following strikes your fancy
AIniks
NoBots
Cogclean
Algorejects
SynthephobesI quite like synthephobes !
Synthless
Cogstainers
Analogians -
Try if one of the following strikes your fancy
AIniks
NoBots
Cogclean
Algorejects
SynthephobesI quite like synthephobes !
Synthless
Cogstainers
AnalogiansI'm not sure if AInik works, wouldn't that mean they are a fan of AI? Also unsure of the synth- options as a friend of synthesizer musicians, but as a non musician maybe I should use that myself
I can't interpret analogian without help...But the others sound pretty great! Cogstainers is awesome because it can be reworked into different word types. Verbs, adjectives. Incredible.
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I'm not sure if AInik works, wouldn't that mean they are a fan of AI? Also unsure of the synth- options as a friend of synthesizer musicians, but as a non musician maybe I should use that myself
I can't interpret analogian without help...But the others sound pretty great! Cogstainers is awesome because it can be reworked into different word types. Verbs, adjectives. Incredible.
wrote last edited by [email protected]AIniks, it's something like refusenik, chainik and beatnikm yeah I'm not sure if it's anti, or pro or something else, it's also hard to say
I think analogian just sounds like vegan and it's for people who prefer analog meatbased wetware.
Synth- as in synthetic, against synthetic fakeness
A cogstaining synthless analogianSynthfree ?
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This is such a stupid name for this.
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If anyone says the words "AI Vegan" to my face, I'm throwing shit.
Make sure to wash your hands after.
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On my list of "dont's", inspired by Luke Smith, I do not use AI.
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I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".
Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".
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I can't say I'm a (normal) vegan, but I'm definitely an AI vegan. I was turned off by the ethical considerations, and the few "bites" I have tried leave a bad taste in my mouth. I avoid using it because much of the training data was (and is) stolen, the power costs are far too high compared to the utility, and it's basically worthless to me, having a screwed up response to nearly every prompt I tried.
Exactly the same as me.
Love me a good steak, never even tried AI.
I've stood by while my colleagues have used it. I ask them a question they might know, just to check before I start spending time reading documentation. They'll go "just ask Bing!" (Company endorsed AI.)
They'll keep prompting and prompting and discussing the results, meanwhile I just go directly to the docs and find the information right there written on the screen.
I won't subject myself to the dumbification. I don't even use copilot to auto-complete as much as a for loop. I know how it's written, damnit.
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I installed it locally on my computer to help me with resolving some coding issues if I’m stuck, write cover letters for jobs, and help me organize ppt decks. No information is shared, I’m only using local computing resources, and I’m not propping up a failing business model.
What model and UI are you using?
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I think some AI use is clearly worth the costs (like helping with scientific research or accessibility), some clearly isn't (like generating spam), and much falls in a gray area where reasonable people can disagree.
So do I think it's ethical to use me? In many cases, yes - but I understand why thoughtful people might conclude otherwise, and I don't think they're wrong to avoid AI if they've weighed the considerations and found the costs too high. -
I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".
Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".
Starting it with "AI" is already misleading. Whatever the noun is should be preceded by "Anti-AI."
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I selective use AI for low risk applications.
I can use it to reskin a picture to a water painting or whatever for the purpose of using it as an icon in a smart home app or similar.
i also use it to clean audio for memes with friends.
At the moment its not reliable to solve actual problems. I simply don't use to for those purposes because it sucks.
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I can only imagine someone came up with AI vegan after they decided to eat steak that evening while thinking they're the ones who are pressed by vegans...
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I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".
Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".
Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.
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AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.
