Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons
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I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".
Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".
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I can't say I'm a (normal) vegan, but I'm definitely an AI vegan. I was turned off by the ethical considerations, and the few "bites" I have tried leave a bad taste in my mouth. I avoid using it because much of the training data was (and is) stolen, the power costs are far too high compared to the utility, and it's basically worthless to me, having a screwed up response to nearly every prompt I tried.
Exactly the same as me.
Love me a good steak, never even tried AI.
I've stood by while my colleagues have used it. I ask them a question they might know, just to check before I start spending time reading documentation. They'll go "just ask Bing!" (Company endorsed AI.)
They'll keep prompting and prompting and discussing the results, meanwhile I just go directly to the docs and find the information right there written on the screen.
I won't subject myself to the dumbification. I don't even use copilot to auto-complete as much as a for loop. I know how it's written, damnit.
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I installed it locally on my computer to help me with resolving some coding issues if Iām stuck, write cover letters for jobs, and help me organize ppt decks. No information is shared, Iām only using local computing resources, and Iām not propping up a failing business model.
What model and UI are you using?
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I think some AI use is clearly worth the costs (like helping with scientific research or accessibility), some clearly isn't (like generating spam), and much falls in a gray area where reasonable people can disagree.
So do I think it's ethical to use me? In many cases, yes - but I understand why thoughtful people might conclude otherwise, and I don't think they're wrong to avoid AI if they've weighed the considerations and found the costs too high. -
I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".
Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".
Starting it with "AI" is already misleading. Whatever the noun is should be preceded by "Anti-AI."
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I selective use AI for low risk applications.
I can use it to reskin a picture to a water painting or whatever for the purpose of using it as an icon in a smart home app or similar.
i also use it to clean audio for memes with friends.
At the moment its not reliable to solve actual problems. I simply don't use to for those purposes because it sucks.
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I can only imagine someone came up with AI vegan after they decided to eat steak that evening while thinking they're the ones who are pressed by vegans...
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I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".
Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".
Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.
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AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.
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AIniks, it's something like refusenik, chainik and beatnikm yeah I'm not sure if it's anti, or pro or something else, it's also hard to say
I think analogian just sounds like vegan and it's for people who prefer analog meatbased wetware.
Synth- as in synthetic, against synthetic fakeness
A cogstaining synthless analogianSynthfree ?
analog
Makes more sense now, I only picked up one the first 2/3 and thought of other things
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Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.
Would you happen to be a vegan who is also anti-car by any chance?
If so, I can recommend fuckcars on ml as they share your viewpoint.
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AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.
What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?
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Starting it with "AI" is already misleading. Whatever the noun is should be preceded by "Anti-AI."
I dunno, the use of AI Ethicist fits as they're not against the concept of generative AI as a whole, they're against unethical generative AI (in terms of stolen training data and environmental harm).
If the world transitioned to a post-IP (intellectual property) society (as we need to), with AI eating less power, then AI Ethicists are unlikely to object.
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TIL I'm a lot of thing vegan... also, not a vegan.
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Carnivores: vegetable vegans.
This works so well specially for those people that refuse to touch anything "not cooked" in their plate or that is green.
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So I'm not the only one who refuses ro touch it?
Around me and everywhere it's getting insane that it feels like there's literally no one who hasn't used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.
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Would you happen to be a vegan who is also anti-car by any chance?
If so, I can recommend fuckcars on ml as they share your viewpoint.
No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.
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What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?
The US government.
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What bullshif us this?
A. I vegan is a nonesence title.
How about " people who don't want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"
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What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?
I think it's scam. Before crypto scam was in couple of places but now it's everywhere.
