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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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  • W [email protected]

    Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.

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    Would you happen to be a vegan who is also anti-car by any chance?

    If so, I can recommend fuckcars on ml as they share your viewpoint.

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      AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.

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      What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?

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      • flagstaff@programming.devF [email protected]

        Starting it with "AI" is already misleading. Whatever the noun is should be preceded by "Anti-AI."

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        I dunno, the use of AI Ethicist fits as they're not against the concept of generative AI as a whole, they're against unethical generative AI (in terms of stolen training data and environmental harm).

        If the world transitioned to a post-IP (intellectual property) society (as we need to), with AI eating less power, then AI Ethicists are unlikely to object.

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          TIL I'm a lot of thing vegan... also, not a vegan.

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            Carnivores: vegetable vegans.

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            This works so well specially for those people that refuse to touch anything "not cooked" in their plate or that is green.

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              So I'm not the only one who refuses ro touch it?

              Around me and everywhere it's getting insane that it feels like there's literally no one who hasn't used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.

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                Would you happen to be a vegan who is also anti-car by any chance?

                If so, I can recommend fuckcars on ml as they share your viewpoint.

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                No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.

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                  What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?

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                  The US government.

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                    What bullshif us this?

                    A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

                    How about " people who don't want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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                      What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?

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                      I think it's scam. Before crypto scam was in couple of places but now it's everywhere.

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                        I'd rather be called a Luddite than ai vegan

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                          Aigen or Aibstenant something for a term. Vegan is not right.

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                            I’ll just stick with calling myself “old man yelling at clouds” for the double meaning and so I’m not a vegan of any kind, thanks.

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                              What bullshif us this?

                              A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

                              How about " people who don't want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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                              It's a lead. Because they've already made vegans mockworthy

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                              • W [email protected]

                                No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.

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                                Definitely a good point to raise; thanks for doing so!

                                Here's a fun one - where do you stand on those forced to commute dur to housing prices near inner city work (e.g. I live in near poverty paying a mortgage for a small place near where I work due to poor public transport so I can walk to work - how does this figure into the anti-car vision? Is it an employer issue, a government issue, a personal sacrifice, or something else entirely?)

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                                  Stupid-ass title.

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                                  Stupid ass-title

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                                    What bullshif us this?

                                    A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

                                    How about " people who don't want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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                                    You kind of summarized being vegan

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                                      This is someone more obnoxious than ai tech bros

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                                        Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

                                        They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

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                                        • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                                          Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

                                          They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

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                                          There’s been recent pushes in that regard, investment in AI shit has been enormous but the financial payoff for anyone besides hardware manufacturers remains nonexistent. So investors and corporations have recently redoubled their efforts into trying to get everyone to use it in the hopes that this somehow will make them profitable.

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