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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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    I’ll just stick with calling myself “old man yelling at clouds” for the double meaning and so I’m not a vegan of any kind, thanks.

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      What bullshif us this?

      A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

      How about " people who don't want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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      It's a lead. Because they've already made vegans mockworthy

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        No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.

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        Definitely a good point to raise; thanks for doing so!

        Here's a fun one - where do you stand on those forced to commute dur to housing prices near inner city work (e.g. I live in near poverty paying a mortgage for a small place near where I work due to poor public transport so I can walk to work - how does this figure into the anti-car vision? Is it an employer issue, a government issue, a personal sacrifice, or something else entirely?)

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          Stupid-ass title.

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          Stupid ass-title

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            What bullshif us this?

            A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

            How about " people who don't want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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            You kind of summarized being vegan

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              This is someone more obnoxious than ai tech bros

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                Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

                They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

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                • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                  Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

                  They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

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                  There’s been recent pushes in that regard, investment in AI shit has been enormous but the financial payoff for anyone besides hardware manufacturers remains nonexistent. So investors and corporations have recently redoubled their efforts into trying to get everyone to use it in the hopes that this somehow will make them profitable.

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                  • H [email protected]

                    AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.

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                    Wishful thinking. Crypto never got anywhere anyway. I am already seeing AI slop on billboards and all.

                    Crypto went as far as a YouTube ad for me. I am seeing everyday examples of AI use and generated slop.

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                      I don't use it because I have no trust in it.

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                        Nothing wrong with being a Luddite

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                        When the technology really gets beyond human comprehension and people are just guessing and throwing shit at the wall (or billions and billions of dollars), I think it's a sensible position to be a luddite.

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                          Meanwhile i'm over here like I refuse to use them cause none of them are very good other than making me README markdowns or commit messages. that's all I use AI for now a days.

                          It feels like, to me at least, they've gotten worse especially when you use them in your editor for completion. Github Copilot just spews out garbage and even claude code feels like it has gotten worse in the past few months.

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                            So I'm not the only one who refuses ro touch it?

                            Around me and everywhere it's getting insane that it feels like there's literally no one who hasn't used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.

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                            Search sucks and the AI is faster for tech questions. Try searching a Linux cli question or obscure error. Lots of stuff from over a decade ago that are no longer relevant. And you have to wade through so much to find the right one. Or type in AI wait a minute and get the answer.

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                              Make sure to wash your hands after.

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                              Or use a sling for higher velocity

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                              • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
                                • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
                                • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
                                • Recycling: waste vegans.
                                • Solar power: power vegans.

                                The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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                                netaphor vegan

                                Found an autocorrect vegan!

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                                  I don't use it because I have no trust in it.

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                                  Sounds like you are not eating enough small rocks a day. You should eat 1 small rock a day.

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                                    Meanwhile i'm over here like I refuse to use them cause none of them are very good other than making me README markdowns or commit messages. that's all I use AI for now a days.

                                    It feels like, to me at least, they've gotten worse especially when you use them in your editor for completion. Github Copilot just spews out garbage and even claude code feels like it has gotten worse in the past few months.

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                                    so.... you're refusing AI, but you are using AI?
                                    isnt the point of the story that people are not using because ethics? its not a discussion on how good they are, which is somewhat irrelevant.

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                                      I'd rather be called a Luddite than ai vegan

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                                      luddaite?

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                                      • W [email protected]

                                        No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.

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                                        are the two comparable? genuinely asking because i suspect AI usage is an order
                                        of magnitude or so more...

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                                          No, I didn’t make it up. Although I rather wish I did, because it’s quite catchy, isn’t it?

                                          No, it isn't, it's fucking stupid. The author was kind enough to link the source of that shitty idea, and the AI/vegan parallels are, per said article: ethical, environmental and wellness concerns.

                                          Gee wiz, I sure never saw people with those 3 concerns in regards to anything other than veganism!!!

                                          /s

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