Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons
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I don't use it because I have no trust in it.
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Nothing wrong with being a Luddite
When the technology really gets beyond human comprehension and people are just guessing and throwing shit at the wall (or billions and billions of dollars), I think it's a sensible position to be a luddite.
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Meanwhile i'm over here like I refuse to use them cause none of them are very good other than making me README markdowns or commit messages. that's all I use AI for now a days.
It feels like, to me at least, they've gotten worse especially when you use them in your editor for completion. Github Copilot just spews out garbage and even claude code feels like it has gotten worse in the past few months.
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So I'm not the only one who refuses ro touch it?
Around me and everywhere it's getting insane that it feels like there's literally no one who hasn't used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.
Search sucks and the AI is faster for tech questions. Try searching a Linux cli question or obscure error. Lots of stuff from over a decade ago that are no longer relevant. And you have to wade through so much to find the right one. Or type in AI wait a minute and get the answer.
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Make sure to wash your hands after.
Or use a sling for higher velocity
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- Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
- Straight edgers: drug vegans.
- Recycling: waste vegans.
- Solar power: power vegans.
The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.
netaphor vegan
Found an autocorrect vegan!
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I don't use it because I have no trust in it.
Sounds like you are not eating enough small rocks a day. You should eat 1 small rock a day.
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Meanwhile i'm over here like I refuse to use them cause none of them are very good other than making me README markdowns or commit messages. that's all I use AI for now a days.
It feels like, to me at least, they've gotten worse especially when you use them in your editor for completion. Github Copilot just spews out garbage and even claude code feels like it has gotten worse in the past few months.
so.... you're refusing AI, but you are using AI?
isnt the point of the story that people are not using because ethics? its not a discussion on how good they are, which is somewhat irrelevant. -
I'd rather be called a Luddite than ai vegan
luddaite?
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No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.
are the two comparable? genuinely asking because i suspect AI usage is an order
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No, I didn’t make it up. Although I rather wish I did, because it’s quite catchy, isn’t it?
No, it isn't, it's fucking stupid. The author was kind enough to link the source of that shitty idea, and the AI/vegan parallels are, per said article: ethical, environmental and wellness concerns.
Gee wiz, I sure never saw people with those 3 concerns in regards to anything other than veganism!!!
/s
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luddaite?
This deserves more votes
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are the two comparable? genuinely asking because i suspect AI usage is an order
of magnitude or so more...You're right that there's orders of magnitude difference, but its the driving that's far more! One query to a chatGPT type model uses roughly 1Wh of energy, which is about the same as is released in burning one droplet of gasoline.
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Definitely a good point to raise; thanks for doing so!
Here's a fun one - where do you stand on those forced to commute dur to housing prices near inner city work (e.g. I live in near poverty paying a mortgage for a small place near where I work due to poor public transport so I can walk to work - how does this figure into the anti-car vision? Is it an employer issue, a government issue, a personal sacrifice, or something else entirely?)
Its an urban planning and transport issue essentially. Medium density housing (think 4-6 story blocks) allows enough people to live in an area that it becomes feasible to have trams/light rail serving that area.
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I have local self hosted AI that runs in my solar system.
I don’t use AI because it ROTS your brain.
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Starting it with "AI" is already misleading. Whatever the noun is should be preceded by "Anti-AI."
I've personally sworn off writing code with any if statements or static values, my webpages hallucinate differently on each refresh
My desktop is a bit allergic to any art made my humans
— A.I. Vegan
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I don't use it because I have no trust in it.
also because it's shit, if my memory serves me, I have successfully used AI for a productive task 1 time out of 7 attempts so far... it saved me 5 minutes
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also because it's shit, if my memory serves me, I have successfully used AI for a productive task 1 time out of 7 attempts so far... it saved me 5 minutes
That is part of the trust thing. I spent more time fixing the word salad it spat out than it would have taken to write the document.
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I don't use A.I. because I've had nothing but negative interactions with A.I. Customer service bots that fail to give adequate responses, unhelpful and incorrect search result summaries, and, "art," that looks like shit hasn't made me want to sign up for ChatGPT or Gemini. For most people, this isn't a moral stance, it's just that the product isn't worth paying for. Stop framing people that don't use A.I. as luddites with an ax to grind just because tech bros spent billions on a product that isn't good yet.
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That is part of the trust thing. I spent more time fixing the word salad it spat out than it would have taken to write the document.
Yes, hand in hand...
Anecdotal of course, but every person I know who claims AI is a huge productivity booster simply trust it blindly.
I can't even get "Copilot" to return a proper answer from its own meeting transcript... just yesterday there was some confusion about an IP address we exchanged in a past meeting... I asked Copilot to check the transcript and give me the IP of the vendor's server (which I pointed by name of system and who spoke it in the meeting) and it gave me the IP of MY server, functionally the complete opposite of what I was asking but with full confidence in its answer
