Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons
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I don't use A.I. because I've had nothing but negative interactions with A.I. Customer service bots that fail to give adequate responses, unhelpful and incorrect search result summaries, and, "art," that looks like shit hasn't made me want to sign up for ChatGPT or Gemini. For most people, this isn't a moral stance, it's just that the product isn't worth paying for. Stop framing people that don't use A.I. as luddites with an ax to grind just because tech bros spent billions on a product that isn't good yet.
For most people, this isn’t a moral stance, it’s just that the product isn’t worth paying for.
Wait till you see the price of a burger in another five years.
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I hate this attitude from people who don’t even try things before saying they are not missing out. Try AI! You have to experience the head bashing, head scratching time sink, after which you do a manual search anyways. It is a marvellous wonder how bad modern "cutting edge" tech can be.
They may have come to this decision through experience.
Having used it a bit, I find it's like someone a bit stupid with a lot of time on their hands, but no knowledge, saying "I'll learn everything you need to know from Google and write you an answer", just speeded up a lot. And just as frustrating.
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The irony of environmental activists using the word "veganism" while not being vegan
(being vegan is one of the most significant reduction to greenhouse emissions that is within your personal choice)wrote last edited by [email protected]Incorrect, get the guillotine
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The irony of environmental activists using the word "veganism" while not being vegan
(being vegan is one of the most significant reduction to greenhouse emissions that is within your personal choice)wrote last edited by [email protected]Eh. Factory farming is a significant contributor to greenhouse gases, particularly through methane released by large livestock herds.
But the industry is so saturated with subsidies and shielded from liabilities and exempted from taxes and so comically wasteful in its surplus production that there hasn't been any material benefit to veganism as a social movement. You can take a moral position (and you should, eating meat is awful for a variety of reasons). But there's no actual correlation between an increase in vegan eating habits and a decrease in agricultural emissions. All we ever get is more meat shipped abroad or thrown in the trash.
The real curb to agricultural production has been raw materials constraints - limits on arable land, potable water, and slaughterhouse workers - that have (directly or indirectly) emerged from a changed climate. Outside these limits, all we've really achieved is "Grapes of Wrath" style surplus destruction to keep retail prices up.
If a factory farm can produce another dead cow, it does, even if it can't reliably bring the carcass to market. The profit margins are set so artificially high that they'd be fools not to do so. Only herd die-offs resulting from heat waves, water shortages, and a lack of below-market migrant labor seem to dissuade them from trying to expand.
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Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That's not how any of this works.
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Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That's not how any of this works.
I'm sex vegan. Cry about it virgins
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I'm sex vegan. Cry about it virgins
No mayo in the bedroom? Why even bother.
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Guess i'm vegan now
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I don't use A.I. because I've had nothing but negative interactions with A.I. Customer service bots that fail to give adequate responses, unhelpful and incorrect search result summaries, and, "art," that looks like shit hasn't made me want to sign up for ChatGPT or Gemini. For most people, this isn't a moral stance, it's just that the product isn't worth paying for. Stop framing people that don't use A.I. as luddites with an ax to grind just because tech bros spent billions on a product that isn't good yet.
You only notice AI-generated content when it’s bad/obvious, but you’d never notice the AI-generated content that’s so good it’s indistinguishable from something generated by a human.
I don’t know what percentage of the “good” content we see is AI-generated, but it’s probably more than 0 and will probably go up over time.
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Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That's not how any of this works.
I mean, abstaining from animal products makes someone a vegan, right? If you abstain from AI products then it would follow that you’re an “AI vegan”.
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I'm sex vegan. Cry about it virgins
“Vegan sex” is actually a different thing. It’s penetration but you stop before you cum.
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Hi. That's me.
If at any point I'm required to use it for a job I'll learn. Till then I can do my own googling, reading, math, etc.
I just don't need it. And the push to put it in literally everything makes me not want it at all. Corps don't do good things. Always seeking a rent. Always digging for a profit. And always at our expense.
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The only AI I'd ever want is something like a VI from Mass Effect. Runs locally and harvests absolutely zero data.
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I mean, abstaining from animal products makes someone a vegan, right? If you abstain from AI products then it would follow that you’re an “AI vegan”.
It follows, but it is also feels like click bait.
A definition of vegan is:
A vegetarian who eats plant products only, especially one who uses no products derived from animals, as fur or leather.
There is an environmental parallel, and it made me read the article to see what they were on about -- so I guess it worked.
To be clear, I am very pro environment (I live in it); I just feel like this is crossing the streams of related, but completely different movements, isn't particularly helpful.
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Wishful thinking. Crypto never got anywhere anyway. I am already seeing AI slop on billboards and all.
Crypto went as far as a YouTube ad for me. I am seeing everyday examples of AI use and generated slop.
It's at all time highs
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propaganda like this is so fucking sad
colonizers don't have anything to value in their culture and they don't have a future so they want to rip on people who aren't buying their garbage
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The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they've thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don't know how to monetize it.
There's going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it's weird not to use it constantly
It's going to go horribly and come off like that "fellow kids" meme, exactly like this headline
A good example were those Apple AI ads. So cringe. Google's ads aren't much better but at least Gemini works.
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I prefer Neo-Luddite. There's a few aspects of modern tech I eschew - AI/LLM bring one of them.
Why neo?
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- Working class: retirement vegan
- American: healthcare vegan
- German: humour vegan
My god, it's unstoppable
On this blessed day, we are all truly vegans.
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Reading this thread, I wonder if the term is intended to divide a largely environmentalist opposition.
Makes "nocoiner" seem tame by comparison.
