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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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    Nothing wrong with being a Luddite

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    There literally is. It's a mentality that prevents vaccine adoption rates and such. That said, being slow to adopt a technology like Boomers to the Internet is okay. Not adopting a technology because it has no inherent value and is being foisted on us by the ruling class is solid bro behavior.

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      Carnivores: vegetable vegans.

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      And jus lik that we come full circle 😂

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      • G [email protected]

        There literally is. It's a mentality that prevents vaccine adoption rates and such. That said, being slow to adopt a technology like Boomers to the Internet is okay. Not adopting a technology because it has no inherent value and is being foisted on us by the ruling class is solid bro behavior.

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        Tell me you don't know who the Luddites were without telling me you don't know who the Luddites were.

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          And here i am not using it because I'm old and cranky.

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          I just don't use it because it's shit and doesn't do anything I need any better than I can do myself in the same time.

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            It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

            Whole new level.

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            Its so wacky out there. When I read something like this I'm sure its The Onion. And its not. Then I read a headline about US politics and its totally believable , alas its The Onion.

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              I'm choosing to abstain because it's shit. The ethical things are just a bonus. It produces inaccurate information and bland soulless images.

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                Nothing wrong with being a Luddite

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                It was always about worker's rights anyways:

                Malcolm L. Thomas argued in his 1970 history The Luddites that machine-breaking was one of the very few tactics that workers could use to increase pressure on employers, undermine lower-paid competing workers, and create solidarity among workers. "These attacks on machines did not imply any necessary hostility to machinery as such; machinery was just a conveniently exposed target against which an attack could be made."[10] Historian Eric Hobsbawm has called their machine wrecking "collective bargaining by riot", which had been a tactic used in Britain since the Restoration because manufactories were scattered throughout the country, and that made it impractical to hold large-scale strikes.[13][14] An agricultural variant of Luddism occurred during the widespread Swing Riots of 1830 in southern and eastern England, centring on breaking threshing machines.[15]

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

                It was about making sure that as mechanization resulted in a lower need for labor, that workers compensation remained steady, and they worked less hours.

                People hating luddites is just the result of centuries old propaganda from the wealthy

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                  I installed it locally on my computer to help me with resolving some coding issues if I’m stuck, write cover letters for jobs, and help me organize ppt decks. No information is shared, I’m only using local computing resources, and I’m not propping up a failing business model.

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                    The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they've thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don't know how to monetize it.

                    There's going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it's weird not to use it constantly

                    It's going to go horribly and come off like that "fellow kids" meme, exactly like this headline

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                    still don't know how to monetize it.

                    They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

                    Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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                      Tell me you don't know who the Luddites were without telling me you don't know who the Luddites were.

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                      Oh I didn't realize that everyone uses the term literally. I thought it had expanded to mean a general lack of adoption of change. My bad I guess.

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                        I only eat non-sentient AIs too.

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                          There literally is. It's a mentality that prevents vaccine adoption rates and such. That said, being slow to adopt a technology like Boomers to the Internet is okay. Not adopting a technology because it has no inherent value and is being foisted on us by the ruling class is solid bro behavior.

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                          The luddites were skilled labor rioting against capital using machines to replace them with unskilled low wage labor

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                          • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
                            • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
                            • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
                            • Recycling: waste vegans.
                            • Solar power: power vegans.

                            The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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                            I mean "Straight edgers" is on the same level already

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                              It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

                              Whole new level.

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                              You'd be surprised how much more serene your headspace can become if you stop expecting anything beyond stupidity, incompetence and negligence as the default human behavior.

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                              • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
                                • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
                                • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
                                • Recycling: waste vegans.
                                • Solar power: power vegans.

                                The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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                                You're hereby invited to /c/vegan, as you appear to be a Northern Hemisphere vegan.

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                                  still don't know how to monetize it.

                                  They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

                                  Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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                                  AI having to wait on cold fusion for profitability is one of the funnier concepts I've heard today, thank you.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    still don't know how to monetize it.

                                    They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

                                    Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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                                    People pay for the "premium" because they believe the makers who said it can increase their profitability and make them money.

                                    My employer keeps trying to shove it down our throats too.

                                    They're desperate to find anyway to make it reduce work, be cause they've already paid for it under the assumption it would let them cut staffing

                                    Now they're finding out they got swindled, do you think they'll re-up on AI?

                                    The AI companies offloaded how to monetize it to consumers and scared them into being left behind unless they discovered how to use it.

                                    It's a short term bubble.

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                                    • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]
                                      • Working class: retirement vegan
                                      • American: healthcare vegan
                                      • German: humour vegan

                                      My god, it's unstoppable

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                                      • Republican: democracy vegan, justice vegan, decency vegan, consent vegan
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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        still don't know how to monetize it.

                                        They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

                                        Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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                                        They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023.

                                        And all that $1B revenue cost them was a $5B loss! https://www.wheresyoured.at/howmuchmoney/

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                                          Stupid title, but in all honesty, now would be the time to create a new religion where there are restrictions on hyper modern things like AI, robotics, etc.

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