Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Technology
  3. Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Technology
technology
441 Posts 251 Posters 1 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • R [email protected]

    I am a AI Freedom Fighter.

    roserose56@lemmy.caR This user is from outside of this forum
    roserose56@lemmy.caR This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote last edited by
    #229

    I'm one too!

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

      I had a fish that died by suicide. We didn't eat it, but arguably

      T This user is from outside of this forum
      T This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote last edited by
      #230

      It was kept in captivity by you though, which is not it's natural habitat so any choices it made were, arguably, under duress.

      If you lived by a creek and regularly recognised a fish swimming by, and one day this fish killed itself in front of you- you still shouldn't eat it as fish contain a lot of parasites and there's very likely also something toxic in the water causing the fish to harm itself this way.

      But yeah, sure, hypothetically: if for a year or so you knew a wild fish that lived in an unpolluted and ecologically healthy body of water, and one day this fish chose to kill itself in front of you. You could, if you really wanted to eat a suicidal fish, eat the fish and say it was vegan because the only harm that came to the fish was through the un-coerced choices of said suicidal fish.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • D [email protected]
        blackmist@feddit.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
        blackmist@feddit.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote last edited by
        #231

        I refuse to use it because it's shit.

        We are not the same.

        F S E 3 Replies Last reply
        30
        • M [email protected]

          I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.

          B This user is from outside of this forum
          B This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote last edited by
          #232

          Effectively I believe we are. During my MFA I realized we were simply copying as a form of craft. It's all we do in arts. Any great work feels like just one continuous story retold again and again.

          P 1 Reply Last reply
          1
          • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

            I refuse to use it because it's shit.

            We are not the same.

            F This user is from outside of this forum
            F This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote last edited by
            #233

            Yup, these things are still garbage for >90% of all applications people are jamming them into. Breathed a sigh of relief when my company CEO said he doesn't see us using AI for more than can center routing for at least the next several years.

            E 1 Reply Last reply
            6
            • J [email protected]

              I mean, abstaining from animal products makes someone a vegan, right? If you abstain from AI products then it would follow that you’re an “AI vegan”.

              J This user is from outside of this forum
              J This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote last edited by
              #234

              Abstaining from animal products is just vegetarian. Veganism requires an extremely strict adherence to a very specific set of rules concerning animals.

              J 1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                There's a huge push right now to salvage the AI hype bubble as people realize the tech can't live up to the promises. They are also trying to prevent regulation.

                This includes the pushes to humanize the tool, like saying it deserves rights or that there may be some kind of racism against the tool.

                J This user is from outside of this forum
                J This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote last edited by
                #235

                They're trying to pretend it's real AI rather than extremely complicated text prediction. Hell, the less knowledgeable among them might even believe it. LLMs are a sort of language pareidolia.

                zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • J [email protected]

                  We need to poison the models with more satire on the Internet.

                  F This user is from outside of this forum
                  F This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #236

                  Yup, satire is lost on the dumb and LLMs have no intelligence.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • J [email protected]

                    Abstaining from animal products is just vegetarian. Veganism requires an extremely strict adherence to a very specific set of rules concerning animals.

                    J This user is from outside of this forum
                    J This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote last edited by
                    #237

                    Vegetarians can eat cheese, which is an animal product.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • D [email protected]
                      U This user is from outside of this forum
                      U This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #238

                      I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

                      inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI F J M zacryon@feddit.orgZ 6 Replies Last reply
                      8
                      • U [email protected]

                        I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

                        inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                        inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote last edited by
                        #239

                        You've probably heard this before but do consider alternatives like Startpage and Qwant. It's not flawless but I've found it's definitely better.

                        U 1 Reply Last reply
                        2
                        • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                          I refuse to use it because it's shit.

                          We are not the same.

                          S This user is from outside of this forum
                          S This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote last edited by
                          #240

                          Every last bit of it? What is your stance on use of AI for tasks such as data analysis of massive sets for scientific research, or procedural automation of massive operations?

                          N P 2 Replies Last reply
                          1
                          • D [email protected]
                            T This user is from outside of this forum
                            T This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote last edited by
                            #241

                            how to belittle and minimize a very serious thing: call any protesters of it a " ___ vegan"

                            S J 2 Replies Last reply
                            60
                            • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                              Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

                              They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

                              T This user is from outside of this forum
                              T This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote last edited by
                              #242

                              yeah, this is 1000% deliberate manufacturing consent

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              5
                              • U [email protected]

                                I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

                                F This user is from outside of this forum
                                F This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote last edited by
                                #243

                                If you're willing to pay money then Kagi is a great alternative. They claim they don't collect or share your data. Though, Kagi isn't very good for local search results and probably never will be.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                4
                                • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]
                                  • Working class: retirement vegan
                                  • American: healthcare vegan
                                  • German: humour vegan

                                  My god, it's unstoppable

                                  C This user is from outside of this forum
                                  C This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #244

                                  I love your profile image. I should reread Rice Boy.

                                  gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG 1 Reply Last reply
                                  1
                                  • M [email protected]

                                    I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.

                                    A This user is from outside of this forum
                                    A This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #245

                                    you aren't artificial tho lol

                                    H H 2 Replies Last reply
                                    2
                                    • U [email protected]

                                      I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

                                      J This user is from outside of this forum
                                      J This user is from outside of this forum
                                      [email protected]
                                      wrote last edited by [email protected]
                                      #246

                                      https://udm14.com/

                                      You can also get a search extension in firefox (probably others as well but I haven't looked)

                                      It essentially strips the bullshit out and just shows you search results.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      2
                                      • U [email protected]

                                        I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

                                        M This user is from outside of this forum
                                        M This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [email protected]
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #247

                                        Duck duck go

                                        N 1 Reply Last reply
                                        8
                                        • M [email protected]

                                          Duck duck go

                                          N This user is from outside of this forum
                                          N This user is from outside of this forum
                                          [email protected]
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #248

                                          Unfortunately, it's not better and also shows slop

                                          rickyrigatoni@retrolemmy.comR krompus@lemmy.worldK 2 Replies Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups