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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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    how to belittle and minimize a very serious thing: call any protesters of it a " ___ vegan"

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    They are "journalism vegans". They are choosing to abstain from actual journalism for clickbaiting, herd mentality, and personal lack of skill reasons.

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    • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

      Get out of here with your nuanced take. This is Lemmy, we hate AI it uses up 1bazinga gigalitres of water each time you look at it.

      Now excuse me while I go play some video games and search Google, those things use zero electricity.

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      I sense jealousy in this one.

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      • J [email protected]

        They use to mock us with “Luddite” but the Technologists looked into that actual movement (rather than the caricature) and agreed, “yeah sure, like them”. That took the sting out of the pejorative, so they picked another mocked group to connect it with.

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        Maybe we should be more like the luddites, starting with data centers.

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          you aren't artificial tho lol

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          [citation needed]

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            how to belittle and minimize a very serious thing: call any protesters of it a " ___ vegan"

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            Why are you dissing on vegans? Veganism is legit, bro.

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            • krompus@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

              I’ve been using DuckDuckGo for over a decade, the results are fine, and !bangs are extremely useful for piping queries directly to specific sites, !w for wikipedia, !aw for archwiki, etc. The Duck.ai function is a recent addition, and it can be easily disabled if you don’t want it. By default it doesn’t usually pop up by itself. You can also use lite.duckduckgo.com for a much leaner search and absolutely no AI.

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              Just switched to noai.duckduckgo.com. Thanks stranger!

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                So normal decent human beings

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                  We let environmentalism become an individual issue, and that was a mistake. Can we not do this for AI? It's a society-wide problem, not something you can solve by measuring your own personal AI footprint.

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                    Thats 99% lemmy users

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                    • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

                      No, I didn’t make it up. Although I rather wish I did, because it’s quite catchy, isn’t it?

                      No, it isn't, it's fucking stupid. The author was kind enough to link the source of that shitty idea, and the AI/vegan parallels are, per said article: ethical, environmental and wellness concerns.

                      Gee wiz, I sure never saw people with those 3 concerns in regards to anything other than veganism!!!

                      /s

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                      ITT: people really upset at being called 'vegan' for some reason.

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                      • rickyrigatoni@retrolemmy.comR [email protected]

                        You can at least turn off its built-in summaries. But some filtering to detect AI generated articles would be nice.

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                        You can ask it to turn off the summaries. It still shows them but you can ask.

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                          Just switched to noai.duckduckgo.com. Thanks stranger!

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                          Ah, I was unaware of that shortcut, thanks for the heads up, and you’re welcome! 🦆

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                            What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?

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                            techbros graced everyone else with disruptive, innovative methods of money laundering

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                              AI vegan is not a thing and shall never be.

                              The correct term is Technophile. Anyone obsessed with tech would never hand it off to a third party to do when they can go through the joy of learning themselves.

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                                AI vegan is not a thing and shall never be.

                                The correct term is Technophile. Anyone obsessed with tech would never hand it off to a third party to do when they can go through the joy of learning themselves.

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                                I'm technophobic. Fucking clankers

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                                  Just switched to noai.duckduckgo.com. Thanks stranger!

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                                  ddg is great 🙂

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                                    You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving.

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                                    Don't try to argue with the lemmy anti-AI crowd, it's not worth it.

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                                      AI isn't the meat, jack. It's slop.

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                                        Its neither for me, i just dont like getting wrong information and AI is giving tons of it.

                                        Also its not intelligent it just fucking sounds so

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                                          Hear me out: what i, this is a plot to boost vegan numbers. Given latest stats huge portion of population does not use or see any use in AI - i.e. can be claimed AI vegans so in aggregation reports those could be viewed as a subset of Vegans... resulting in undeniable truth that 90%+ of population are vegan now

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