Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons
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I love your profile image. I should reread Rice Boy.
High five, fuck yes. Cool person detected. I think you're the first one to spot it, too.
I wish I had that series in print. Might be time to look into that
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It's like how they put the word gate after something to say that it is a scandal involving the former word.
Somesort of political scandal involving road maintenance? Oh yes well that's roadgate then. Even though the Watergate scandal was in fact it scandal in the watergate hotel, rather than a scandal about water.
Someday we'll have Gate gate, or maybe even another scandal at the Watergate complex, so Watergate gate.
I can't wait!
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you aren't artificial tho lol
Maybe they were artificially inseminated?
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It's fair to say that the environmental and ethical concerns are significant and I wouldn't look down in anyone refusing to use AI for those reasons. I don't look down on vegetarians or vegans either - I don't have to agree with someone's moral stance or choices to respect them.
But you're right, LLMs are full of crap.
LLMs definitely are full of crap. But that isn't the point of them (even if some corporations make it seem like it is)
They are supposed to be used for text generation. And you are supposed to read through everything afterwards to correct any hallucinations.
It can't work on its own, and make mistakes about 30% of the time.
But there are use cases where that isn't a problem. Use them as inspiration for creative writing prompts for example. They are crazy good at that.
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I don't use it because I have no trust in it.
Don't use it for things you need trust in then.
Inspiration for creative writing prompts for example. Things that make you double check every word that has been generated or where it doesn't matter they hallucinate.
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And you have to wade through so much to find the right one. Or type in AI wait a minute and get the answer.
Uhhh, type in AI, wait a minute and get an answer. How are you checking it?
rm - f /isn't the only filesystem footgun.I'm finding AI to be right roughly only 60% of the time, and it's as bad and hallucinatory about shell scripts as it is about everything else.
It will happily admit its mistakes and give you another answer when you call it out, but it's no more likely to be right that time.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You check it by following the link to the webpage where it found your answer and reading that.
AI as a search engine is good, but never blatantly trust any search result they come up with. It is however incredible at wading through the slop that is SEO.
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I don’t use ai either. But because it’s fuckin stupid. It’s not even ai. It’s a glorified sorting algorithm.
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I don’t use ai either. But because it’s fuckin stupid. It’s not even ai. It’s a glorified sorting algorithm.
It is AI.
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AI vegan is not a thing and shall never be.
The correct term is Technophile. Anyone obsessed with tech would never hand it off to a third party to do when they can go through the joy of learning themselves.
That's a completely different reason to not use AI.
You're a technophile - you don't use AI because you enjoy finding information on your own and learning. Great. That ignores the vast majority of people using AI to write emails/posts (which is not looking up information nor learning anything related to tech).
The people the article is about don't want to use AI due to environmental reasons - the amounts of water and energy it uses for every prompt is stupid high and they don't want to contribute to that waste.
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"AI vegans"? I knew guardian was already bought by tech bros, but wtf is that phrasing lmao I dont use AI either, simply because it is wrong more often than not and I am still capable of googling myself, but being cautious equals to being vegan in tech bro eyes?
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Its neither for me, i just dont like getting wrong information and AI is giving tons of it.
Also its not intelligent it just fucking sounds so
wrote last edited by [email protected]Whithout a clear definition of intelligence, such a discussion is somewhat pointless. The closest thing I would use to describe artificial "intelligence" is: Mimicking human/natural thought and decision processes, without the necessity of being identical.
Secondly, regarding your first paragraph:
Humans excel at providing wrong information. Sometimes they are right. In that regard there are similarities between an LLM and a human.By the way: LLMs are part of the field of AI. But AI consists of a plethora of methods and algorithms, where LLMs are just a tiny fraction that is currently very popular.
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I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though
Have you tried Ecosia?
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I don’t use ai either. But because it’s fuckin stupid. It’s not even ai. It’s a glorified sorting algorithm.
Hard copium there
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Thats 99% lemmy users
Less but yea, many are anti AI here
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I refuse to use it because it's shit.
We are not the same.
*because you don't know how to use it
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Yup, these things are still garbage for >90% of all applications people are jamming them into. Breathed a sigh of relief when my company CEO said he doesn't see us using AI for more than can center routing for at least the next several years.
Works relatively well for image editing
Else yea I would agree, sometimes it's just shoved for nothing, but 90% seems like too much
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AI doesn't exist, machine learning algorithms can be useful and are used with no controversy, generative bullshit is basically useless.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's... not how it works. ML is AI also..
Don't talk about things you don't understand, please, to avoid misinforming other
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You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Same thinking as people who hate crypto for a part of it
They just sound completely dumb, yet it's the majority of people here
For a place that welcomes people, inclusivity and hate discrimination, there's a lot of generalization of a lot of topics
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This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. Refusing to submit to corpo ratfuckery isn't a lifestyle choice. It's common sense.
It is though
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We don't need to invent new terms, like 'AI Vegan', when we have a perfectly good term already: Butlerian Jihadist.
