Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons
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Works relatively well for image editing
Else yea I would agree, sometimes it's just shoved for nothing, but 90% seems like too much
Don't misunderstand, LLM's are fantastic for certain applications and it makes sense to use them. But seriously GTFO my email and search results. Generated speech? Ew. Generated videos? Nah. Ordering for me at a restaurant? Just kill me.
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Sure, that mainly applies when it's the same model training on itself. If a model trains on a different one, it might retrieve some good features from it, but the bad sides as well
AI requires genuine data, period.
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Enjoy being downvoted for being right
I don't care about votes. I just hope that people start to comprehend this field a tiny bit better .
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I love the arguments: none
AI is broader than LLMs
When you're attacking an entire field with no arguments, and saying it's shit based on your feelings rather than facts, expect people to disagree
It's not really about feelings? It's provably, demonstrably wrong a bunch of the time. It's pathologically incapable of saying "I don't know this". Also you're nitpicking, they may have conflated LLMs with AI but so is the article and you clearly knew what OC was talking about.
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But yes. Exactly in the use of "Artificial Intelligence".
Artificial Intelligence is a wide field, consisting of a plethora of methods. LLMs like ChatGPT are part of this wide field, as per definition how researchers are describing the field.
The "intelligence" part is an issue though if taken literal, since we have no clear definition of what "intelligence" even is. Neither for human / natural intelligence, nor for artificial. But that's how the field was labled. We have created a category for a bunch of methods, models and algorithms and sticked "AI" onto it. Therefore I stand by what I have said before:
It is AI.
Due to the lack of a clear definition for "intelligence" I would coarsely outline AI as: mimicking natural thinking, problem solving and decision processes without necessarily being identical. (This makes it difficult to distinguish it from plain calculators though, so a better definition is required.) So if we have a model that is able to distinguish cat pictures from non-cat pictures, that's AI. And if we have "autocorrect on steroids" (credit to Dirk Hohndel) like ChatGPT, that matches the text comprehension skills of 15 year olds (just an example), then this too is AI.
One fundamental part of "intelligence" is being able to come up with independent thoughts. Another is to be able to think critically about those thoughts. LLMs cannot do either.
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What model and UI are you using?
Qwen 2.5 coder. Running on LLM studio.
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- Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
- Straight edgers: drug vegans.
- Recycling: waste vegans.
- Solar power: power vegans.
The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.
Recycling: waste vegans.
The Germans are probably upset with this comparison
What for a nonsense. Do these other countries not sort their waste or what?
Do they not know about efficiency?
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It is wacky/contrarian as we are still eating meat normally. LLM is stiiiill soso, but soon wacky/contrarian will also apply to not using it, sadly
People, eat shit. Billions of flies can't be wrong...
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LOL gen z kids are fucking hysterical.
AI will save the world, it has already started. -
People, eat shit. Billions of flies can't be wrong...
Kiiiinda confused. Am I fly? Nah, I am a human. And most of us eat mixed diet. That's normal. Baseline. So, eating only veggies is wacky. Same with eating only meat.
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LOL gen z kids are fucking hysterical.
AI will save the world, it has already started.wrote last edited by [email protected]Well, yes, it will save people by turning them into obedient sheep, who can be gotten rid of at any convenient moment with the snap of a finger, without any smart plans.
I don't know, maybe in some sense, by giving up your freedom, you can find salvation, who knows, you were such crazy people who believed in flying cars, and some people even believe in garden gnomes lol.
For example -- I am superman and I even have a video of me saving people, do you believe me?
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But yes. Exactly in the use of "Artificial Intelligence".
Artificial Intelligence is a wide field, consisting of a plethora of methods. LLMs like ChatGPT are part of this wide field, as per definition how researchers are describing the field.
The "intelligence" part is an issue though if taken literal, since we have no clear definition of what "intelligence" even is. Neither for human / natural intelligence, nor for artificial. But that's how the field was labled. We have created a category for a bunch of methods, models and algorithms and sticked "AI" onto it. Therefore I stand by what I have said before:
It is AI.
Due to the lack of a clear definition for "intelligence" I would coarsely outline AI as: mimicking natural thinking, problem solving and decision processes without necessarily being identical. (This makes it difficult to distinguish it from plain calculators though, so a better definition is required.) So if we have a model that is able to distinguish cat pictures from non-cat pictures, that's AI. And if we have "autocorrect on steroids" (credit to Dirk Hohndel) like ChatGPT, that matches the text comprehension skills of 15 year olds (just an example), then this too is AI.
I was going to wholeheartedly endorse your comment and then you ruin it in the last sentence with
that matches the text comprehension skills of 15 year olds (just an example), then this too is AI.
It feels like you know what you are talking about, but then confuse the successful statistical analysis of text as "comprehension" which is just plain factually wrong.
sad. so close though.
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Don't misunderstand, LLM's are fantastic for certain applications and it makes sense to use them. But seriously GTFO my email and search results. Generated speech? Ew. Generated videos? Nah. Ordering for me at a restaurant? Just kill me.
Brave's AI search results are pretty good
I don’t dislike AI generated videos as long as they are funny with some meta (making fun of the absurdity of what characters do for example - the brainrot potential is unlimited)
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I love the arguments: none
AI is broader than LLMs
When you're attacking an entire field with no arguments, and saying it's shit based on your feelings rather than facts, expect people to disagree
You mean I should have instead replied with good solid arguments like:
Hard copium there
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AI requires genuine data, period.
Go read about it instead of spewing nonsense.wrote last edited by [email protected]If they weren’t trained on the same data, it ends up similar
Training inferior models with superior models output can lower the gap between both. It’ll not be optimal by any means and you might fuck its future learning, but it will work to an extent
The data you feed it should be good quality though
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You mean I should have instead replied with good solid arguments like:
Hard copium there
wrote last edited by [email protected]Affirmations without argumentation can be dismissed without argumentation
Saying AI is a sorting algorithm is just inaccurate. What can I say apart from its just not how it works? Anyone who studied that field knows how much they’re dishonest. They are just too many possibilities and types of AI to list them all
At this point a video game is just a glorified sorting algorithm of pixels of color
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We let environmentalism become an individual issue, and that was a mistake.
Everyone knows it's not an individual issue, corporations are constantly buying up political shielding and support, as well as media opinions, to ensure that "the economy" remains more important than the environment and that they, the ones responsible for all the shit, don't get regulated or properly fined and blamed.
I don't really agree that "everyone knows this" when everyone I know talks about environmentalism almost exclusively in terms of individual impact.
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I don't care about votes. I just hope that people start to comprehend this field a tiny bit better .
They won’t, because their opinion is political and ideological, not technical
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It's not really about feelings? It's provably, demonstrably wrong a bunch of the time. It's pathologically incapable of saying "I don't know this". Also you're nitpicking, they may have conflated LLMs with AI but so is the article and you clearly knew what OC was talking about.
wrote last edited by [email protected]So you’re just going to throw the creativity aspect of it, or that it is right a good portion of the time?
You’re going to ignore the gigantic demand for AI, and the thousands of people that have a productivity gain from it?
All tools have issues. AI doesn’t have to be the one tool that’s either all or nothing. If you approach it with a neutral angle and try to work with it the right way, I’m sure you’ll benefit from it. Some basic uses are really good:
- Summarizing text
- Proposing better or alternative wording
- Inventing short paragraphs, stories, other similar stuff
- mimicking a style
- knowledge and questions about basic and broadly known subjects
- asking for similar tools or notions
- speech recognition, and text to speech (still limited)
- image editing
- Bug fixing (software recommendations, centralized diagnostics (still limited but faster and easier))
- quickly getting infos on a subject that are easy to understand (limited, just like searching on internet without taking the time to search more)
- much more
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Kiiiinda confused. Am I fly? Nah, I am a human. And most of us eat mixed diet. That's normal. Baseline. So, eating only veggies is wacky. Same with eating only meat.
