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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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  • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
    • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
    • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
    • Recycling: waste vegans.
    • Solar power: power vegans.

    The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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    You're hereby invited to /c/vegan, as you appear to be a Northern Hemisphere vegan.

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      still don't know how to monetize it.

      They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

      Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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      AI having to wait on cold fusion for profitability is one of the funnier concepts I've heard today, thank you.

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        still don't know how to monetize it.

        They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

        Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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        People pay for the "premium" because they believe the makers who said it can increase their profitability and make them money.

        My employer keeps trying to shove it down our throats too.

        They're desperate to find anyway to make it reduce work, be cause they've already paid for it under the assumption it would let them cut staffing

        Now they're finding out they got swindled, do you think they'll re-up on AI?

        The AI companies offloaded how to monetize it to consumers and scared them into being left behind unless they discovered how to use it.

        It's a short term bubble.

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        • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]
          • Working class: retirement vegan
          • American: healthcare vegan
          • German: humour vegan

          My god, it's unstoppable

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          • Republican: democracy vegan, justice vegan, decency vegan, consent vegan
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            still don't know how to monetize it.

            They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There's also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

            Profitability is another question though. Likely we're waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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            They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023.

            And all that $1B revenue cost them was a $5B loss! https://www.wheresyoured.at/howmuchmoney/

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              Stupid title, but in all honesty, now would be the time to create a new religion where there are restrictions on hyper modern things like AI, robotics, etc.

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                The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they've thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don't know how to monetize it.

                There's going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it's weird not to use it constantly

                It's going to go horribly and come off like that "fellow kids" meme, exactly like this headline

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                AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value. I think you're just talking specifically about ChatGPT and consumer-facing LLMs.

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                  Luddites

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                    AI having to wait on cold fusion for profitability is one of the funnier concepts I've heard today, thank you.

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                    It's being used to research fusion too

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                      AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value. I think you're just talking specifically about ChatGPT and consumer-facing LLMs.

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                      AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value

                      Suuuuuuuuuuure it has....

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                        There it is. The stupidest headline I've read all week.

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                        • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                          They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023.

                          And all that $1B revenue cost them was a $5B loss! https://www.wheresyoured.at/howmuchmoney/

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                          Yes my second paragraph alleged as much. Not that you read that far of course.

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                            HA!

                            I feel like I should be annoyed at the headline, but honestly it's clever. Veganism isn't just a diet, but an ethical framework on minimizing harm so this fits all three aspects in the articles.

                            • I support artists who had their work stolen as part of dataset, it's largely the same reason I don't eat animals, it's all about consent. Being harmed without consent is always wrong.

                            • Likewise the environmental footprint of meat and AI are massive and unnecessary. The carbon footprint between meat and plant protein is massive, just like the difference between building more data centers and supporting existing artists.

                            • AI is bad for your mental health, we don't really have complete research on what exactly AI does to our brains but I've seen enough people thinking they "unlocked sentience", became "digital gods" and started AI "relationships" to steer clear for my own protection. Not dissimilar to the studies that show a plant based diet is better for your heart and immune system. I'd still be eating plants even if it were bad for my health, I care more about the ethical side, but existing research very much shows it as a net positive.

                            Neat concept.

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                              It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

                              Whole new level.

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                              That's because the author seems to be a journalism vegan, writing vegan and self-awareness vegan.

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                                Now we wait for article “meet genocide vegans: people who are against Israel’s genocide against Palestinians based on ethical reasons”

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                                  What a terrible choice of words. They’re immediately assigning political placement and party to the idea of avoiding AI use instead of appealing to all of humanity on this topic.

                                  Plus, it’s a silly metaphor.

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                                    How about we don't call that being an AI vegan and just call it a moral objection. That's fucking ridiculous, that's a term designed to make not using AI for that reason look bad and preachy.

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                                      AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value

                                      Suuuuuuuuuuure it has....

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                                      lol ok. I've literally done it. Please, go enlighten yourself on google.

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                                        People who care*

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                                          Luddites

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                                          You're not wrong. I am skeptical of AI, and I worry if that makes me a Luddite. I think refusing to use it for anything probably does qualify one as a Luddite. Using it for limited purpose with oversight is the correct approach.

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