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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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  • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
    • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
    • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
    • Recycling: waste vegans.
    • Solar power: power vegans.

    The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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    It’s like taking the last syllable of the name of the hotel and tacking it onto every scandal, because you didn’t understand that it’s part of the name of a hotel, and not some sort of indicator of scandal.

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      I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.

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        I can not wait, until the time of the perpetually seeking attention moron ends. Its always something with these fucking people. If you dont wanna use AI, just dont use it. Theres no fucking gun to your head. And we dont need to know youre not using, much less, find out youve got a dumb fucking name for yourselves.

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        If it gets you talking about it, even in the context of telling them to shut the fuck up, it's working πŸ™‚

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          Can you pick them out if crowd by their furled brows?

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          Just hold up a picture, they'll show up to tell you why they think it's generated

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          • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
            • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
            • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
            • Recycling: waste vegans.
            • Solar power: power vegans.

            The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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              I've never used AI, even when wanting to give it a try. There was either a queue or a fee, or must click-wrap agree to terms and conditions for free two months and I wasn't going to do those.

              I never did an NFT either.

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              • reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

                It’s like taking the last syllable of the name of the hotel and tacking it onto every scandal, because you didn’t understand that it’s part of the name of a hotel, and not some sort of indicator of scandal.

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                The worst was the Col scandal.

                (Sorry. So sorry)

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                  I think it depends on the reason you do not use it. The Luddites were primarily frustrated over automation displacing their high-skill job with low-skilled ones that produced worse quality goods. It's a 2 for 1: we are losing the jobs we need to survive, but also we lose the personal touch from the work of artisans + lose appreciation for their talent.

                  I am not carte blanche against AI as a concept, but it really does seem like a technology that makes interactions worse quality, more depersonalized, and on top of that it has a horrible externalized environmental cost which benefits nobody in the long run.

                  Addendum: I believe technology has the power to be liberating when it provides for all of us, and oppressive when it concentrates wealth+power into the hands of moguls and tyrants.

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                    I can not wait, until the time of the perpetually seeking attention moron ends. Its always something with these fucking people. If you dont wanna use AI, just dont use it. Theres no fucking gun to your head. And we dont need to know youre not using, much less, find out youve got a dumb fucking name for yourselves.

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                    "Theres no fucking gun to your head."
                    Bosses: πŸ¦œπŸ€– πŸŸ°πŸ’Ή, πŸ‘¨β€πŸ’ΌπŸ”«πŸ€“

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                    • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

                      Terrible choice of words, veganism deserves better than that.

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                      It's honestly not even the worst way I've even seen it used.

                      I used to watch some League of Legends (I know, I know) streams from time to time, and there's a meta where your mid laner, who is supposed to be a strong carry, gives up all their farm to the roaming jungler roll so they become the super-carry.

                      In any case this somehow got termed to be the "vegan mid" strategy. Ugh. Veganism is when you starve, apparently.

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                      • myopinion@lemmy.todayM [email protected]

                        I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.

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                        Just wait until you have an employer tell you that you need to write up a summary of how you used AI in your every day activities to save 25% of your day to work on other activities.

                        You'll use AI to write the summary and then soon discover that your employer is a tool and is paying more than double your salary to keep that AI around to do literally nothinf 98% of the time it exists.

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                          Not trafficking children vegan

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                          Age of majority vegan

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                            Ai vegans are people who only use ai generated porn.

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                              I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.

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                              I also try, but it is invoked on my behalf. For instance, at work if I make a pull request now multiple AI bots are summoned to give an analysis of my code changes. It's extremely verbose and annoying, and I think basically nobody reads it because all it does is just spam the comments section with way too much text.

                              I vehemently hate OpenAI, ChatGPT, et al. At least it's funny when it summarizes my changes as significant improvements that improve code maintainability. I guess getting glazed by the bot in a way my manager can see is helpful to my career? Though honestly he probably also doesn't read that shit. So glad all this energy is wasted for nothing.

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                                I'm an LLM freegan, I guess. But I'm cutting back too, the usefulness peaked.

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                                  It's being used to research fusion too

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                                  I know, I regularly sleep with one of the researchers involved with several similar pojects (aren't I cool). Fascinating stuff though! Very much not comparable to commercial LLMs, though.

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                                    Freeze! Vegan police!

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                                      'AI vegan'....

                                      Where I come from, saying something that stupid will get you killed.

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                                        It's not cool to use "vegan" like this.

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                                          I don't. If it makes me a Luddite, I'm a Luddite.

                                          What doesn't change is that this is a train heading toward a derailment at highspeed while on fire.

                                          Just today I had to walk through why GitHub copilot should not be used for security purposes. I explicitly told the engineer that a constructed url would be detected as a potential XSS vector by our vulnerability scans. They implemented several things, most of which did nothing. Finally, I grabbed the documentation on how to fix it, gave them the line number, gave them the function, and let them build and test it. It ran through the scans and of course it passed.

                                          I get the desire from leadership. I really do. But I'm more interested in our products not costing us more, especially when the LLMs are going to fail the economy on a wide scale.

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